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Offline HoHun

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Re: Each nation's most powerful service engine?
« Reply #45 on: November 07, 2005, 05:07:52 PM »
Hi Karnak

>USA: R2800-77 at 2,800hp?

I believe when including a turbocharged engine in the comparison, it would be necessary to establish the contribution of exhaust thrust that the mechanically-supercharged engines enjoy to a much larger degree.

(I thought WW2 turbochargers would not provide any exhaust thrust at all, but apparently, there were two different types of turbines, and only the equal-pressure turbines could not yield any meaningful thrust. I learned this from a recent article on the turbocharged BMW801 in the German Flugzeug Classic, but haven't been able to figure out which WW2 aricraft had which type of supercharger. The Allisons of the P-38 apparently used equal-pressure turbines as there is one quote from Clarence Kelly expressing regret that he couldn't exploit exhaust thrust in his design.)

Anyway, the R2800-77 quoted above would have to be compared to the Jumo 213A (which is one of the few engines I have seen exhaust thrust data for) based not on the latter's 2140 HP shaft power, but to about 2300 - 2600 HP shaft equivalent power depending on speed. (As a rule of thumb, in a climb the turbo-charged engine compares more favourably than in level level flight.)

I suspect the R-2800 would also add a bit of exhaust thrust on its own, based on the location of the exhausts on the P-47, but that's just a suspicion so far. Any data would be welcome! :-)

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Henning (HoHun)

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Each nation's most powerful service engine?
« Reply #46 on: November 07, 2005, 05:17:14 PM »
Schutt:
Aero engines then have reasonably good torque, for the peak output is at a rather low RPM, if you compare for instance, with Formula cars, yes?
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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Pratt and Whitney R-4360
« Reply #47 on: November 09, 2005, 01:52:27 PM »
It was developed during the war but never saw service.  Pretty mean looking bugger too.  3500hp

http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/engines/eng34a.htm

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Each nation's most powerful service engine?
« Reply #48 on: November 09, 2005, 03:06:37 PM »
XR-7755, but "service engines" is the requirement here