Author Topic: Bomber guns (Read 1297 times)

hubsonfire · « **Reply #15 on:** November 02, 2005, 02:21:03 PM »

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Originally posted by Voldemort
We did it in Air Warrior.

Okay, so did I, but the Deathstar crowd isn't exactly the norm in here. I do miss the intercomm system though- surely one of the best features our bombers do not have.

Anyway, point being, if we are never going to get a multiple gunner setup, bomber guns should, IMHO, be tweaked.

Flaps · « **Reply #16 on:** November 02, 2005, 05:33:42 PM »

Buff guns are nothing, I agree with HONDO 100%

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #17 on:** November 02, 2005, 05:56:28 PM »

I don't know about you guys, but I am awful at shooting down buffs.

Unless it is absolutely vital (like defending a CV) I won't even go near them.

hubsonfire · « **Reply #18 on:** November 02, 2005, 08:34:20 PM »

Don't confuse the quality of your opponent, and the effectiveness of the guns. Fly the bombers some, and try a Deathstar run.

Mr No Name · « **Reply #19 on:** November 03, 2005, 12:44:42 AM »

Why isnt muzzle jump modeled or g-forces on gunners when a plane is turning/diving/climbing?

Krusty · « **Reply #20 on:** November 03, 2005, 01:02:34 AM »

Because 1) for the most part bombers don't pull too many moves while gunning, and if you have a pilot/gunner pair, the gunner's aim is already screwed big time because the pilot is moving around.

P.S. We *had* an intercom in Ah1. I used to use it all the time with AKNimitz in lancasters. I think it was 111 and made your text white, like you privately tuned to a player.

dedalos · « **Reply #21 on:** November 03, 2005, 10:15:45 AM »

I think what he is saind is that when the guns hit you, they all hit you at the same time. So, instead of one guner putting a couple of rounds in you, they all do at the same time and at the same spot. Convergence can be adjusted in one fo the files I think. In any case, if you ever watch any gun cams from Germans attacking bombers, you will see that they totaly ignored the buffs guns. Also, a few 20mm in the tail gunner position should atlist disable it, if not killing the gunner. After all, those are the same 20mm that can kill ack guns by exploding somewhere near them and kill you when you shoot a target thats too close to you. Bottom line, buff guns == total BS.

Karnak · « **Reply #22 on:** November 03, 2005, 10:51:28 AM »

Bomber gun convergence cannot be adjusted so far as I know. It is hard coded to converge at 500 yards. Anything much closer or further away and only the gun(s) you are directly manning will be hitting, or if another gun is hitting yours will be missing.

dedalos · « **Reply #23 on:** November 03, 2005, 11:13:23 AM »

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Originally posted by Karnak
Bomber gun convergence cannot be adjusted so far as I know. It is hard coded to converge at 500 yards. Anything much closer or further away and only the gun(s) you are directly manning will be hitting, or if another gun is hitting yours will be missing.

You could be right. I remember reading instructions on how to do it, just can't remember when, how, or if true, lol Getting old

Gato · « **Reply #24 on:** November 03, 2005, 01:09:40 PM »

The other night I was 1.5 at 7:oo low to a lanc formation. He didn't just ping my P-38, but with one short burst sent me to the tower. Sorry, but that was just not right!:O Damage, yeah, I can see that, but a total wipeout, no.

Karnak · « **Reply #25 on:** November 03, 2005, 01:46:37 PM »

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Originally posted by Gato
The other night I was 1.5 at 7:oo low to a lanc formation. He didn't just ping my P-38, but with one short burst sent me to the tower. Sorry, but that was just not right!:O Damage, yeah, I can see that, but a total wipeout, no.

Pilot kill? The P-38 is more vulnerable to those due to the lack of a big, solid engine sitting in front of the pilot acting as armor. If so, well, a .50 cal hitting a guy is going to kill him. It doesn't take 20 hits to do it either.

The Mossie and Bf110 have the same problem.

Gato · « **Reply #26 on:** November 03, 2005, 10:20:05 PM »

No, it was not a pilot wound/kill, the plane went poof. There was another guy who saw it from behind me. He too was in the tower a minute later, same thing. As a note, he was in a spit, so it was NOT a P38 thing. He said it was a great show, flame, smoke and little pieces falling. I'd tell you his name and that of the lanc, but I just don't remember them.

ghi · « **Reply #27 on:** November 04, 2005, 12:43:43 AM »

All the bomber that have "formation" option CAN"T up a base with ord down.
Q ;Why can i up IL2s ??

bj229r · « **Reply #28 on:** November 05, 2005, 11:09:13 AM »

Ya cant kill buffs with LW planes unless ya close to within lethal range of the 50's...I ve had nikis, Chogs, etc sit back at 1k or so, lob cannons in, take me apart..LW rides dont have that luxury..30's have better trajectory, but not that much

Oleg · « **Reply #29 on:** November 05, 2005, 12:27:43 PM »

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Originally posted by Gato
No, it was not a pilot wound/kill, the plane went poof. There was another guy who saw it from behind me. He too was in the tower a minute later, same thing. As a note, he was in a spit, so it was NOT a P38 thing. He said it was a great show, flame, smoke and little pieces falling. I'd tell you his name and that of the lanc, but I just don't remember them.

If you found youself in tower it was pilot kill. No matter what saw other men, "flame, smoke and little pieces falling" are just for show. You cannt see them already (after pk) but others can.