Space

[cav58d]

Okay this is prolly a stupid question...But hey, no question asked is stupid right?

Okay now in space there is zero gravity as we all know....

Now say the shuttle is cruising straight and level, and proceeds to abruptly pitch nose down....What happens?  nothing right?  since there is zero G, they would not get the feeling of negative gravity like pitching the nose of an aircraft down....

wow i must sound like an idiot

[Shane]

in space, no one can hear you anyway.

if something caused the shuttle to pitch abruptly, in the absence of a countering force, it will continue to pitch 360 degrees, over and over; done quickly and long enough this will generate sufficient centrifugal forces to create...

artificial gravity.

duh.

[2bighorn]

Originally posted by cav58d
Okay this is prolly a stupid question...But hey, no question asked is stupid right?

Okay now in space there is zero gravity as we all know....

Now say the shuttle is cruising straight and level, and proceeds to abruptly pitch nose down....What happens?  nothing right?  since there is zero G, they would not get the feeling of negative gravity like pitching the nose of an aircraft down....
 

You feel G forces because of inertia and inertia is depended on mass not the gravity.

[Naytch]

Originally posted by cav58d
Okay now in space there is zero gravity as we all know....

Now say the shuttle is cruising straight and level, and proceeds to abruptly pitch nose down....What happens?  nothing right?  since there is zero G, they would not get the feeling of negative gravity like pitching the nose of an aircraft down....

No, they would feel nothing. If they were near a gravitational feild, like near the sun, then probably a bit of a jolt.

But anyway, you must remeber that in space there's no such thing as down. Which is why that movie 'Wing Commander' sux bcuz he said that he'd go vertical to shake the bandit of his tail, but he forgot that in space there's no such thing as up!

[715]

G forces have nothing to do with gravity at all.  G is just the unit used and is equal to the gravitional force at Earths surface.  If you suddenly change direction that means you must have been acted on by a force and you will feel that force.  So in your example if the Shuttles thrusters fired so as to pitch the Shuttle up you would feel a downward force (positive Gs) if you were in the cockpit (and if you were strapped in) and you would feel a negative G or upward force if you were on the tail.  (But that would be the least of your worries as there is no air at that end)  The force you 'feel' is your own inertia counteracting the applied force; at the nose you are pushed downward into your seat because your body doesn't want to move and the seat is being pushed up against it by the thrusters.

Newtons laws and all.

[Angus]

Nasa uses Newton.
Newton works in space.
G force works in space.
Centrifugal force works in space.
Take a loop in space and you will feel your own weight.

[mechanic]

Originally posted by Naytch
No, they would feel nothing. If they were near a gravitational feild, like near the sun, then probably a bit of a jolt.

But anyway, you must remeber that in space there's no such thing as down. Which is why that movie 'Wing Commander' sux bcuz he said that he'd go vertical to shake the bandit of his tail, but he forgot that in space there's no such thing as up!

dont mean to be a pain, but actually there is always an up and down for an object with mass, and a defined 'right side up' and 'bottom side down' configuration. eg: person, space craft, apple.

despite there being no dimmensions in space, you can still term your movements of your own personal horizontal and vertical axis.

now i feel smart!

[Flayed1]

I have to say this is one of the most inteligent threads on this board in a long time    Keep it up.

[Naytch]

True, but then it'd be regarded as upWARD or downWARD, not up or down.

Up and down is used in general directions e.g. up is the direction pointing towards the sky, and down towards the ground. Now, with that in mind, imagine you were lying down on your belly, looking at the ceiling. Even though the sky is still directly in front of you, it is still regarded as "up".

But since there's no such thing as sky or ground in space, then you talk about directions RELATIVE to the object of mass, and then it does not remain up or down, but a suffix of -WARD is added to denote direction relative to the object of mass.

Let's say you were in a space suit and an asteroid was above your head. You would say that it was above you, and that you would have to turn upWARDS to face it.

Now if you were in a plane in the atmosphere and a bandit was above you, you'd say it was above you, but you'd only need to pull UP to face it, understand?

Now I feel smart

[Slash27]

You watched 'Wing Commander':rofl

[Naytch]

Biggest waste of time EVAR!!!

Uhh, wait...


whut?

[mechanic]

dang, now i feel like you're smart and im not so smart

[Heretik]

Originally posted by Naytch
. Which is why that movie 'Wing Commander' sux bcuz he said that he'd go vertical to shake the bandit of his tail, but he forgot that in space there's no such thing as up!

That's neither the beginning nor the end of why that movie sucks.

[J_A_B]

"That's neither the beginning nor the end of why that movie sucks."

The real reason for the motion picture suckage would be the fact that the games (Wing Commander 3 and 4) had both a better plot and better actors than the Hollywood POS.  



"since there is zero G, they would not get the feeling of negative gravity like pitching the nose of an aircraft down...."


That feeling of "negative gravity" isn't caused by gravity at all; it's caused by inertia.  Inertia works perfectly fine in deep space so you'd still feel it.  Actually, given the extreme velocities objects in space move at, if a ship "abruptly" changes its vector the occupants would likely be injured or die because of the extreme forces.  This is why most science-fiction spaceships are described as having some sort of "inertial dampers".

J_A_B

[ATA]

Originally posted by cav58d
Okay this is prolly a stupid question...But hey, no question asked is stupid right?

There are no stupid questions,theres only stupid people.
Kidding.