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Offline g00b

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« on: November 08, 2005, 05:29:06 PM »
I KNOW this has been mentioned before. I searched for it and got no hits. Anyhow....

Can we please have engine contrails from bombers at altitude?

Can we please have wing tip vortices contrails from hard manuevering fighters?

It really doesn't seem like it would take much to implement and would add greatly to the immersion.

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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2005, 05:38:42 PM »
I agree completely.  The only problen is, do most bombers get to an historically correct alt in AH to have contrails? and if not, would it be proper to have them at a lower altitude?

Fighter wing-tip contrails are an exellent idea.



"It really doesn't seem like it would take much to implement and would add greatly to the immersion."

It could probably be just a modification of the airshow smoke model.

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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2005, 05:42:51 PM »
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It could probably be just a modification of the airshow smoke model.


My thoughts exactly...

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« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2005, 05:52:48 PM »
Yup, would be neat.
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« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2005, 06:28:42 PM »
Maybe have all aircraft above 17K get contrails?
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« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2005, 10:21:55 PM »
that would be awesome! I'd be in akakosphere all the time, writing "theres a Pigface in your neighborhood!" with my 38. I'm likeing this game more each day. Make it so Hitech. My wish would be longer trails than the smoke. I know.. fps. still.
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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2005, 07:39:05 AM »
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Make it so Hitech. My wish would be longer trails than the smoke. I know.. fps. still.




A check box in the video section for Contrails On/Off....FPS prob solved
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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2005, 10:43:53 PM »
Adding my lame-o 'me too'.
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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2005, 10:44:46 PM »
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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2005, 09:25:45 PM »
I'm surprised this topic keeps falling off... Imagine the great awareness you would gain when you can tell how hard your opponent is pulling the plane by the length of those wing-tip streamers... This would be a huge enhancement..

I can't believe so few people have an opinion on it.
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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2005, 05:51:15 PM »
i suggested this awhile ago. nobody responded and the thread died as fast as i could wright it.

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« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2005, 04:34:23 AM »
just something else to eat up frame rates....

But aircraft would have to be at a high enough alt before contrails would form. I believe it has to do with the air temp.

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« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2005, 03:49:50 PM »
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Originally posted by g00b
I KNOW this has been mentioned before. I searched for it and got no hits. Anyhow....

Can we please have engine contrails from bombers at altitude?

Can we please have wing tip vortices contrails from hard manuevering fighters?

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« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2005, 05:04:15 PM »
You guys have no idea what the performance hit would be. And it could just be a client side option anyways...

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« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2005, 05:15:57 PM »
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just something else to eat up frame rates....

But aircraft would have to be at a high enough alt before contrails would form. I believe it has to do with the air temp.


Thats true of the engine exhaust... But the vapor off of fighter wing tips is a function compression and humidity.  These can happen in almost any airmass or altitude if the compression (such as during a 7G turn) is sufficient.

The picture below isn't a perfect example because its not a WWII bird, and the vapor trails aren't long... And because the F16 generates a huge amount of its lift right on the wing root (thus thats where the trails appear first)...

Anyhow, this aircraft was going about 250mph at 3000msl (1000 AGL at the location) I took this picture on a relatively warm dry day in June at Van Nuys airport in Los Angeles.  Contrails are clearly visable even at that relatively sedate speed and low altitude with some loading in the turn.  

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