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Offline DREDIOCK

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« on: November 09, 2005, 08:10:43 AM »
Just some of the notable measures on the nation's ballots I found interesting


TEXAS:-Approved: Amend state constitution to ban gay marriage.



WASHINGTON:-Approved: Expand ban on indoor smoking to include bars, restaurants, non-tribal casinos.



OGUNQUIT, Maine:-Approved: Ban chain restaurants.

SAN FRANCISCO:-Approved: Prohibit sale of guns and ammunition, and ban residents, except for police, security guards or military personnel, from possessing handguns



WHITE SETTLEMENT, Texas:-Rejected: Change town's name to West Settlement.
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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2005, 08:20:38 AM »
wanna bet which ones the 9th circuit court and ACLU finds perfectly acceptable and which one they get all upset about?

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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2005, 08:35:30 AM »
Kurt, a gay family friend, and businessman(hey, when you live near Seattle, its inevitable), said it best:

"The intrusion onto the sanctity of marriage and the movement to prevent its legality is not about rights, not about equal opportunities, being against it is not homophobia.... its strictly political."

I'd have to agree with his assessment 100%.

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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2005, 09:03:25 AM »
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Kurt, a gay family friend, and businessman(hey, when you live near Seattle, its inevitable), said it best:

"The intrusion onto the sanctity of marriage and the movement to prevent its legality is not about rights, not about equal opportunities, being against it is not homophobia.... its strictly political."

I'd have to agree with his assessment 100%.


From what breif reports I saw on the Texas measure the vote wasnt anywhere near close.
Think I saw it was something like 75% voted in favor of the ammendment

Thats a pretty resounding defeat of Gay marriage by the people of Texas.
With those kind of numbers (provided that number is anywhere near accurate)  and would have to include a large number of liberals.
Its hard to say political. Its what the people of that state want.
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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2005, 09:12:39 AM »
I don't believe its about homophobia either, it is fear that gay marriage will have negative social consequences.

FWIW, the left will say it was defeated because of the campaign money poored into it.  Its another way to point the finger at someone else rather than face facts that most do not want it.

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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2005, 09:17:20 AM »
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From what breif reports I saw on the Texas measure the vote wasnt anywhere near close.
Think I saw it was something like 75% voted in favor of the ammendment

Thats a pretty resounding defeat of Gay marriage by the people of Texas.
With those kind of numbers (provided that number is anywhere near accurate)  and would have to include a large number of liberals.
Its hard to say political. Its what the people of that state want.


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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2005, 09:27:02 AM »
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FWIW, the left will say it was defeated because of the campaign money poored into it.  Its another way to point the finger at someone else rather than face facts that most do not want it.


I didn't see a single sign, commercial, or speech about this ammendment, for or against. I didn't even know it was up for vote until the day before actually.

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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2005, 09:28:53 AM »
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Kurt, a gay family friend, and businessman(hey, when you live near Seattle, its inevitable), said it best:

"The intrusion onto the sanctity of marriage and the movement to prevent its legality is not about rights, not about equal opportunities, being against it is not homophobia.... its strictly political."

I'd have to agree with his assessment 100%.
for many it is not political at all, it is religious.
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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2005, 09:53:08 AM »
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SAN FRANCISCO:-Approved: Prohibit sale of guns and ammunition, and ban residents, except for police, security guards or military personnel, from possessing handguns


This is nothing but politics. The SC will strike this down, and I believe that they should.
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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2005, 10:09:35 AM »
WTF? OGUNQUIT, Maine:-Approved: Ban chain restaurants.


What the hell does that mean?

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« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2005, 10:09:56 AM »
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I don't believe its about homophobia either, it is fear that gay marriage will have negative social consequences.

FWIW, the left will say it was defeated because of the campaign money poored into it.  Its another way to point the finger at someone else rather than face facts that most do not want it.


Actual vote was 76% vs 24% spending reported at 500k vs 350k. But fingers will point no matter what.

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« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2005, 10:10:30 AM »
Hmm... I wonder if the rate of crimes in SF involving Hand Guns doesn't go down after April the local politicians will apologize for violating their citizen's constitutional right and return their weapons?

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« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2005, 10:13:03 AM »
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WTF? OGUNQUIT, Maine:-Approved: Ban chain restaurants.


What the hell does that mean?


Sounds like they just evicted Chili's, Bennigans, and maybe even McDonalds. Sounds like local politics. If that's what the people really wanted, they simply wouldn't go to the chain restaraunts and drive them out of business.

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« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2005, 10:16:24 AM »
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Hmm... I wonder if the rate of crimes in SF involving Hand Guns doesn't go down after April the local politicians will apologize for violating their citizen's constitutional right and return their weapons?



No they will declare it a gun ban victory and try and ban rifles and shotguns too.

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« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2005, 12:32:42 PM »
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Sounds like they just evicted Chili's, Bennigans, and maybe even McDonalds. Sounds like local politics. If that's what the people really wanted, they simply wouldn't go to the chain restaraunts and drive them out of business.


Most of these are votes on TASTE

It is wrong to legislate taste.

Montpelier Vermont is the only state capital in the U.S. without a McDonalds..... They take pride in that.  But they never made a law like that that I know about.

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On Gay marrige.... you might wish things were simple with such a thing, but they aren't.

The term 'MALE'  and the Term 'FEMALE' are labels, they help us generally communicate traits, about a person.   This is the essence of human lanugage,  DO NOT let it confuse you from reality.

In this place called reality there are no clearly defined sexes.  

Most of you try so hard to make things so simple.

Here's some info on ONE disorder I found with a simple search,

http://mirror.applefanatic.com/anniesrichards/ais.htm
"Jamie Lee Curtis is alleged to suffer from AIS."

Pulizter prize winning author Jefrey Eugenides DOES have  AIS.  (wrote The Virgin Suicides) see the book Middlesex for more information.

I know some of you wish so called gay marrige was as black and white as the words you use, but your black and white words Do Not refelect reality.
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