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Offline Krusty

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« Reply #60 on: November 11, 2005, 02:32:50 PM »
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Krusty has been screaming perk thhis plane since  8/05


Not so. I've not been screaming to perk anything. When the topic has come up in the past few weeks I've said that it should probably be perked due to its performance. I've not screamed anything. In fact, it was only after more info came to light that I felt the 16 might not need perking. Now looking at the completed flight model I go back to my original statement.

Guppy, consider the pilot of the P40. Would a P40E pilot know when a plane is too powerful? Perhaps. Would a a6m pilot know when a plane is too powerful? Perhaps. I don't always prefer LW. I like some of 'em. But I try to avoid most planes lumped into the "uber" class. Axis, allied, whatever the plane. So, perhaps I can tell when a plane is too powerful?

Not logically sound to say this, but perhaps those that only fly the "uber" class of planes can't tell because they're blinded to it? That's another conversation :)

AK, I got some cough drops, I'm fine lol.

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"krusty, first off you dont even play in MA, and second you're a luftwobble dweeb with a biased opinion."

Um.. let's se.. Wrong. Wrong. and.. oh, that's right, WRONG. Wrong on 3 counts. Thank you, come again.
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« Reply #61 on: November 11, 2005, 02:42:34 PM »
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Um.. let's se.. Wrong. Wrong. and.. oh, that's right, WRONG. Wrong on 3 counts. Thank you, come again.



ha ha ha, what a comic.:aok

i aint got nothing against LW, infact 40% of my kills last tour were in 109's. what i do hate is when people who fly LW think that HT is biased towards the allies. that is a crock of cheesee. perk this threads are old news, and after several years still haven't had an impact on the perk status of planes. why dont you people learn. HT has decided on it, he's made the right calls time and time again, just trust him and leave it. if it gets outta hand he will adjust it. please, everyone relax and have a little fun, dont spend your time on the BB complaining, you'll live longer:aok


sorry krusty, i dont mean to sound offensive. btw, i like those 2 new 110 skins of yours, they look really good:)
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« Reply #62 on: November 11, 2005, 02:44:26 PM »
well said Poo....
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« Reply #63 on: November 11, 2005, 02:44:56 PM »
From 8/3/05





Originally posted by Kev367th
1K3 - Would prefer 25lbs non-perked: No reason to perk it, it is still not what you would call a speed demon compared to the top 4. In fact as I stated earlier, its two historical opponents (190/109) are still both faster even with the XVI using 150 grade fuel. Only BIG difference is the increase in climb rate, OK it make the climb outstanding, but don't all the mostly used aircraft in the MA have one outstanding feature.
G10 has great climb - It's not perked.
D9 has good level speed and long WEP - It's not perked.

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Consider the difference between 4500fpm on the G10 (which is about what our spit14 has now, I think 4500-ish is the highest any plane in AH at the moment can climb) and 5700fpm listed for the +25 Spit16. I call that a BIG difference. Couple that with one of the tightest turning aircraft in the game, with a pair of the strongest guns in the game (hispanos) add to that a top speed capable of chasing down a 190D (perhaps in a shallow dive, but close enough) and I think that makes it one of the fastest planes in the game, that can turn the tightest circles, that can rocket into space without even straining, and can kill anything with 1-2 hits.

I sure as heck HOPE it gets a perk!

Spit14 is dangerous enough. Plus by the time doras and G10s showed up there were P47s and P51s to chase them down, so it's not like you're going to totally be limitd only to spits. Also consider that by the time Doras and G10s were around, so were typhoons and tempests. Both far faster than the most common spits.


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Thanx for playing Krusty but you are wrong again.
Also for the record thats not my quote in your last entry.


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I'd link both threads but i am not sure how.
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« Reply #64 on: November 11, 2005, 02:49:05 PM »
While I might promote LW planes here and there, I don't think there's any conspiracy by HTC or anything like that. I agree with your sentiments on that matter.
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« Reply #65 on: November 11, 2005, 02:50:26 PM »
Bronk you can just paste a URL and it will automaticlly become a link.

No, the quote was from poo. The post I made had responses to about 5 people, not just you :)
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« Reply #66 on: November 11, 2005, 03:05:00 PM »
I really don't see a need to perk any of the new additions flew em all lastnight. All of em have their strengths and weaknesses. But I would not call any of them UBER rides. All are late war rides and I don't see em as anymore then flavor of the month rides. I think some of the current rides that are perked should be unperked though. When that happens It will balance the game out more. :cool:
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« Reply #67 on: November 11, 2005, 03:06:48 PM »
Krusty you have a pm.



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« Reply #68 on: November 11, 2005, 03:17:27 PM »
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. All are late war rides and I don't see em as anymore then flavor of the month rides. I think some of the current rides that are perked should be unperked though. When that happens It will balance the game out more. :cool:


I thought that the Spit16 was a 1943 ride?

As for unperking some of the now perked rides, I would have to agree.  the first two I would unperk would be the TA152 and the C Hog.
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« Reply #69 on: November 11, 2005, 03:22:58 PM »
No its a late 1944 ride but -
Only because instead of just calling a LF IXe (same everything as the XVI) because of the retooling (diff standards UK/US) it was decided to call it the LF XVIe.
It has exactly the same performance as a 1943 LF IXe, if it wasn't for retooling would have remained the LF IXe and shown up in AH2 as a 1943 LF IXe.
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« Reply #70 on: November 11, 2005, 03:23:35 PM »
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I thought that the Spit16 was a 1943 ride?

As for unperking some of the now perked rides, I would have to agree.  the first two I would unperk would be the TA152 and the C Hog.


Spit 16 was the 1944-45 version of the 1943 LFIX.  It had the same engine but was refined with the clipped wing, 3 hard points and the E wing of 2 20mm and 2 .5 mgs.

As said before it was a Spit LFIX with the American made Packard Merlin 266 instead of the Rolls Royce produced Merlin 66.  If it had a 266 it was an LFXVI, if it had the 66 it was an LFIX.  They came off the line together from the same plant.  It was all about the engine.  Externally you couldn't tell a latewar LFIX from an LFXVI unless you checked the serial numbers.
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« Reply #71 on: November 11, 2005, 03:26:56 PM »
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However you can't use speed alone. Look at the typhie. It's arguably one of the worst planes in the game, yet its fast. Great guns, but can't turn inside a football field.

What game do you play?
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« Reply #72 on: November 11, 2005, 06:46:05 PM »
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An LA7 will outclimb a Ki84, and so I believe will a 109G10

It doesn’t out accelerate a LA7, nor I doubt a NIKI, and I am not sure about the KI84.

I think a good stick in a LA7 will hand a Spit16 pilot his nuts in a paper bag.  Spit 9 will outturn it, and I bet the NIKI will tie a knot in a Spit16’s tail quite easily.


While I agree Krusty needs to stop over-stating the facts, the Mk.XVI is a very, very good machine. It does out-climb the La-7 (quite easily) and the 109K-4 (not by a huge amount).

I've tested its acceleration and it isn't as good as the La-7, but it's much better than the Ki-84 and light years quicker than the N1K2.

In a one vs one with good pilots, I'll wager on the Mk.XVI winning, or the La-7 being forced to skedaddle. I base this upon several duels against the La-7 last evening.

While the Mk.IX can out-turn the Mk.XVI briefly, it cannot do so for long because the Mk.XVI has far more power and needs only fight up hill. As to the N1K2, don't bet on the N1K2. It's outclassed.

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« Reply #73 on: November 11, 2005, 06:49:08 PM »
"Krusty needs to stop over-stating the facts"

Fair enough, WW.
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« Reply #74 on: November 11, 2005, 06:54:59 PM »
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While I agree Krusty needs to stop over-stating the facts, the Mk.XVI is a very, very good machine. It does out-climb the La-7 (quite easily) and the 109K-4 (not by a huge amount).

I've tested its acceleration and it isn't as good as the La-7, but it's much better than the Ki-84 and light years quicker than the N1K2.

In a one vs one with good pilots, I'll wager on the Mk.XVI winning, or the La-7 being forced to skedaddle. I base this upon several duels against the La-7 last evening.

While the Mk.IX can out-turn the Mk.XVI briefly, it cannot do so for long because the Mk.XVI has far more power and needs only fight up hill. As to the N1K2, don't bet on the N1K2. It's outclassed.

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I guess I stand corrected! :)

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