Author Topic: HK USP 45 fans check this ou! (Read 669 times)

GRUNHERZ · « **on:** November 12, 2005, 06:48:12 PM »

HK45

This will likely be the new US Army sidearm. People who handled it say it noticablt slimmer than current USP and fits your hand simimlarly to a 1911.

Dago · « **Reply #1 on:** November 12, 2005, 07:05:28 PM »

I hate plastic firearms on a "guns are made of wood and steel" basis, but at least if they are getting a .45 back, that is a good thing.

Should be manufactured in the USA if possible.

dago

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #2 on:** November 12, 2005, 08:05:55 PM »

Well the plastic used to be wood at some point in the long ago past - before it turned into oil which was then used to make the plastic of the polymer frame.

And yea I think it will have to be made in the USA if they win the contract, which was pretty much written for this gun if you read the specs.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #3 on:** November 12, 2005, 08:12:24 PM »

There are a lot of HK factories in the US. Err, I mean a good amount, not necessarily a lot.

I still don't understand why we need to go for something new when we have something perfect to start off with.

*cough 1911 cough*.

Maverick · « **Reply #4 on:** November 12, 2005, 09:48:20 PM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
There are a lot of HK factories in the US. Err, I mean a good amount, not necessarily a lot.

I still don't understand why we need to go for something new when we have something perfect to start off with.

*cough 1911 cough*.

At the risk of being branded a heretic, the 1911 ain't perfect for combat.

In it's day when it was cutting edge it was the best there was. Now with better designs out there (think double action and hi cap mags) with just as much accuracy as a MATCH 1911. The time for the 'ol "rattle trap" has passed.

Hangtime · « **Reply #5 on:** November 12, 2005, 10:06:08 PM »

Heretic!

The 'ol rattle trap' would shoot damn near as reliably as a wheel gun.. is this new HK as dependable as the 1911?

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #6 on:** November 12, 2005, 10:44:05 PM »

Yeah, the HK gun is pretty good, though a little big in my opinion.

But I'm an old fashioned kind of guy. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Dago · « **Reply #7 on:** November 12, 2005, 11:04:04 PM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
a little big in my opinion.

It's not considered a concealed weapon, it will be worn in holster. I dont think size will be an issue, and if it is shooting a .45ACP round, it needs some heft.

dago

Heretik · « **Reply #8 on:** November 12, 2005, 11:28:25 PM »

Double action is the perfect soloution to a non-existant problem.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #9 on:** November 12, 2005, 11:30:25 PM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Yeah, the HK gun is pretty good, though a little big in my opinion.

But I'm an old fashioned kind of guy. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

The USP45 is a bit big, but only in grip thicknes. This new HK45 takes care opf that and the slide is thinner to boot.

Lets not forget that the 1911 is very big in weight at some 42ozs or whatever. From what I hear soldiers hate weight.

As for reliabilty, I think we all can agree that a 1911 needs more maintenance.

Raider179 · « **Reply #10 on:** November 12, 2005, 11:46:05 PM »

45 should be the standard. you want something that stops. 9 is not gonna cut it on a battlefield

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #11 on:** November 12, 2005, 11:47:23 PM »

Yep the US army is going back to 45!

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #12 on:** November 12, 2005, 11:51:17 PM »

Size is always an issue. If it's too big for you, it isn't going to work.

Doesn't matter if you conceal it or not.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #13 on:** November 13, 2005, 12:07:41 AM »

What is this too big stuff? Do you all pretend that full size 42 ounce 1911 is a compact weapon?

The only compact thing on a 1911 is width, and thats only on the single stack standard models.

joowenn · « **Reply #14 on:** November 13, 2005, 12:10:10 AM »

got the laser site?