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Offline Karnak

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« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2005, 09:05:14 PM »
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what is FTH?

Full Throttle Height.
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« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2005, 11:00:48 PM »
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Fin,
I'm sure if you're willing to throw your programming skills in and develop these new models HT will appriciate it.

But come on man, every different flight model requires hours of work.  Sure, a sim that could do them all would be cool... And maybe five years hence we'll have every conceivable varient... But right now, unless you know a secret... Maybe we should be happy with what there is.  

Do you know another massive online with such a great selection of birds?


kurt,
 Lets not get smart.

Im certinaly not asking for all these varients u missed the point.
The gondolas and the egg were there as options so wer not talking about much code just  to put it back.

There were many more 109F-4/b's than 109f-4s produced at the factory.
My estimate about 7/8's of the 109F-4's produced were subvarients.
most being either /b/torp/torpz/z as factory 109f-4's
and /r1/r5/r6 being field adjustable.

Just put it back,

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« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2005, 11:10:22 PM »
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Who cares about a bomb? It's a fighter plane...

Waldemar Wübke's personal slogan expresses my feelings on a fighter with bombs:





The DT in not exclusive to the R6 designation.



See above...

Fritz is a fighter plane. Strapping all that extraneous garbage onto to it doesn't make it less 'neutered'. In fact any gain in lethality is offset by the performance loss.

If you are that upset over this type stuff why didn't you make yourself heard when Pyro asked?

There are more pressing issues in regards to the new 109s. Take the G-14 for example. It only reaches a top speed of 390 mph at 16400ft (FTH should be around 410-415 etc...) There other issues with the F as well. I am not going to start a new thread here but for your reading pressure:

109F-4 performance page

Complaining about stuff like 'dude where's my bomb' is just comical in the overall scheme of things.

The Fredrich was a fighter/bomber/bomber hunter
the bomb wasnt my gig but now that u mention it
Nice page let me direct u.
max bombs
http://www.beim-zeugmeister.de/zeugmeister/index.php?id=32&L=1
page 16 overload Bombs?
I dont care how fast yur run g14 goes.
Jabo,
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« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2005, 11:17:59 PM »
It was nice to have the snapshot capabilities in a furball and the ability to take on buffs..ya I would say it got neutered :(

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« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2005, 11:41:30 PM »
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kurt,
 Lets not get smart.


I was getting 'smart' with my first post....  I only started getting serious in the last one.

Seriously, I loved the 109F with the gondolas, it was my primary bomber killer and I rode home on TONS of perks for it.  Its not like I don't miss it.

But its gone.  Move on.
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« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2005, 12:01:46 AM »
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I was getting 'smart' with my first post....  I only started getting serious in the last one.

Seriously, I loved the 109F with the gondolas, it was my primary bomber killer and I rode home on TONS of perks for it.  Its not like I don't miss it.

But its gone.  Move on.


Hey Kurt U move On :),

I didnt post to be dictated to :)

1/8 of a plane does not representive of  its true value. I've proven my point
Please offer the 109F-4 options as all varients 4-50kg 1 250kg 1 500kg  1 300lt dt  
2 20mm gondies just as the 51d is.
Let Us the pilots choose how we wish to use the very versatile plane.

Its not that far Gone,

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« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2005, 04:41:05 AM »
You don't get to choose, these planes weren't redone for the main. The F-4 is now representative of what would typically be seen in combat. Which works well for ToD and events and scenarios. Same with the G-6 not having 3cm and the K-4 not having gondolas.

You can cry about it all you want but if it bunches your panties so much you should said something when Pyro asked.

Also, if you read that link you would see the AH F-4 appears to be to slow as well. Of course what do you care as long as you can tool about with a 500kg bomb and gondolas. What's 30km/h mean then..?