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Offline ace31st

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« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2005, 08:30:26 PM »
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I'm just happy when some 2 week guy doesn't come in and name off 7 planes that we already have in game.



I agree with you there, but you have to admit, half of those planes wouldn't make a lick of difference in the way AH is played. They would either be too uber for everything, or just dog meat for the fighters.

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« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2005, 11:39:06 PM »
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German:  He-111H, Do-17Z, Ju-87B and G, Ju-52, Hs-123, Me-410, Ju-88C and S, Do-217, He-177, Hs-129

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I agree with alot of the ones on the entire list. The one I'd really like to see is the Hs-129. I think it would be less of a hangar queen than the Ju-87. Massive firepower and good speed. Maybe have 2 versions of it available to fly. The standard one with the 20s and 30s then maybe perk the one armed with the 50.   Thoughts?

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Offline TequilaChaser

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« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2005, 11:40:24 PM »
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I agree with you there, but you have to admit, half of those planes wouldn't make a lick of difference in the way AH is played. They would either be too uber for everything, or just dog meat for the fighters.

~DaveJ


well not in the MA, NO....but in TOD, YES it would. you will fly what ever the scenario calls for so yes it would help tremendously to fill out the different  battle fronts that were fought......

he opened with what is needed for TOD, not the MA.......just saying
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« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2005, 03:47:12 AM »
How about a carrier plane to take supplys/troops that actually has some gun turrets for defence dont know if such a plane exists?? does anyone know of one????? :confused:
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Offline ace31st

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« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2005, 05:47:53 AM »
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well not in the MA, NO....but in TOD, YES it would. you will fly what ever the scenario calls for so yes it would help tremendously to fill out the different  battle fronts that were fought......

he opened with what is needed for TOD, not the MA.......just saying


Again TC, that is true, but I highly doubt AH is gonna make 50 new planes just for a couple of battle fronts. A few of them are needed yes, but some of these........not gonna happen.

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Offline Martyn

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« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2005, 12:42:45 PM »
What about some eye candy - like the Grumman Duck! Or the Catalina, Short Sunderland and other float planes. The Condor? Cool.

But I know what you're thinking - they'd have to have a purpose :(
- which is where the idea completely falls down.

(Quietly: 'Convoys? Submarines?')
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« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2005, 05:26:53 PM »
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Does anyone ever get the feeling that all some people want to do is show how many WWII aircraft they can name?


~DaveJ


Ft. Lee or one of the lucky beach bases? ;)
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« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2005, 04:40:16 PM »
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Again TC, that is true, but I highly doubt AH is gonna make 50 new planes just for a couple of battle fronts. A few of them are needed yes, but some of these........not gonna happen.


I agree that we'll never see some of these.  However, how long can the TOD last if it's just 1 era of 1 type of fight in 1 theater?  Folks will get bored very quickly.

IMHO, there are 2 main problems in getting the TOD really up to speed (assuming the underlying structure works OK).  First, it needs more planes to fight other battles.  However, that's still limited by the type of battle that can be fought without major additional work.  IOW, I can see the TOD getting going relatively easily along the lines of what we've come to expect from the classic scenario:  the focus is all air combat, with 1 or both sides bombing stuff and/or trying to keep from being bombed.  However, there weren't that many air campaigns along just those lines.  Battle of Britain, US vs. Germany, US vs. Japanese Home Islands, maybe Germans and Italians vs. Malta (discounting all the anti-shipping stuff going on on both sides), but that's about it.  A huge part of the whole WW2 air effort was ground support, and air-land-sea battles.  So to get beyond repetitive escort-the-buffs/kill-the-buffs situations with different planes, there has to be major development in non-air stuff as well as additional planes.

I have no idea what's easier from HTC's POV, adding planes or adding gameplay elements.  However, I'd suspect the former, if for no other reason than they' ve had lots of practice already.  So let's just look at adding planes.  If we want the BoB, we need several new German buffs at least.  If we want early US vs. Germany, we need early versions of the US buffs, maybe the P47C, and maybe some earlier versions of the FW and 110.  If we want Malta, we need not only the German buffs already added, but pretty much the entire Italian air force, plus some early Brit buffs.  Beyond that, you start adding a lot of ground support stuff, or naval stuff, or both, as well as scads of new planes.
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