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Offline Bullethead

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« on: November 14, 2005, 01:05:49 AM »
Right now, the TOD will pretty much be limited to late-war US bombing Germany.  To flesh this out, and to make other TOD situations possible, how about these planes?

German:  He-111H, Do-17Z, Ju-87B and G, Ju-52, Hs-123, Me-410, Ju-88C and S, Do-217, He-177, Hs-129

Brit:  Blenheim I, IF, and IV, Gladiator, Battle, Whirlwind, Beaufort, Beaufighter, Barracuda, Firefly, Swordfish, Albacore, Vengeance

French:  Amiot 143, MS.406, Potez 630, Bloch MB-152, Breguet 691, Dewoitine D.520, Hawk 75

US:  B-17F, B-24D, A-26,  P-39, B-25s, SB2C, TBD,

Italian:  Cant Z.1007, CR-42, G.50, BR-20, MC.200, Re 2000,

Russian:  LaGG-3, Yak-1, Yak-7, Yak-9D, Yak-3, I-16, I-15*, Il-4, Pe-2, Pe-8, SB-2, Tu-2, TB-3, P-39. MiG-3, Su-2 (off the top of my head)

IJA:  Ki-21, Ki-27, Ki-30, Ki-43, Ki-44, Ki-45, Ki-49

IJN:  A5M, G4M, J1N, B6N, D4Y, P1Y
 
Others:  Fokker D.XXI (various models), PZL P.23, PZL P.11

Night Bombing (assuming changes to radar system, oblique guns, etc.)
German:  Nightfighter versions of Bf-110, Ju-88, and Do-217, He-219
Brit:  Halifax, Wellington, Hampden, Stirling, Whitley

Geez, that's a buttload of planes.  But if we want to do anything in TOD other than bomb Germany, without either glaring absences or hokey substitutions, we gotta start getting some of these birds.
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Offline ace31st

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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2005, 03:43:38 PM »
Does anyone ever get the feeling that all some people want to do is show how many WWII aircraft they can name?


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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2005, 05:11:49 PM »
My list is short and sweet:

Me-410B, P-61B-20, Ju-87G.

A Ju-88C or Ju-188 when the '88 gets redone would be nice too, though.
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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2005, 08:28:23 PM »
i want one of these,aint it cute!!!!! 8 50,s in the nose plus 10 in the wings.!!!!    


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Offline ace31st

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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2005, 02:27:08 PM »
That's not enough firepower.


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Offline Jish102

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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2005, 02:15:17 PM »
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That's not enough firepower.


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Offline Tails

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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2005, 03:59:07 PM »
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That's not enough firepower.


~DJ


Not enough firepower?!?!? Forget about sawing pieces off. With a wide dispersion you would cause a fighter to DISINTIGRATE with that many .50's!
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Offline Panzzer

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« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2005, 08:33:25 PM »
With a quick browsing, I didn't see the Brewster (model 239, the Finnish one) on that list. ;)
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Offline mussie

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« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2005, 09:14:38 PM »
18 Fifty cals..... How many rounds per gun.

Man it would allow you to provide a smacking :)
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Offline ace31st

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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2005, 05:33:52 PM »
I was kidding gents.

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Offline Krusty

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« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2005, 05:44:04 PM »
Even the 8-pack nose with the 2 cheek guns each side of the B25J, they only had 300 rpg. That's still only a few bursts before all ammo is gone.

On A26 I think they'd have the same ammo limitations. Seems relatively standard. So even with those guns, you'd only get a few bursts. Sure, you can fire only primary and only secondary... But wait, I think they'd all be primary and bombs secondary -- whatever -- so even if you just fire 1 bank of guns at a time you'd only get a few more bursts, and what's the point of NOT hitting with 12+ 50cals at once?!?! :P

I'm all for it, but I think it'd be a better bomber buster than a fighter.
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« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2005, 11:55:12 PM »
Krusty I'm not sure but i think the A26 had segnificantly more than 300 rounds per gun. I'll see if i can find the info on it.



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« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2005, 12:10:56 AM »
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Originally posted by Bullethead
Right now, the TOD will pretty much be limited to late-war US bombing Germany.  To flesh this out, and to make other TOD situations possible, how about these planes?

German:  He-111H, Do-17Z, Ju-87B and G, Ju-52, Hs-123, Me-410, Ju-88C and S, Do-217, He-177, Hs-129

Brit:  Blenheim I, IF, and IV, Gladiator, Battle, Whirlwind, Beaufort, Beaufighter, Barracuda, Firefly, Swordfish, Albacore, Vengeance

French:  Amiot 143, MS.406, Potez 630, Bloch MB-152, Breguet 691, Dewoitine D.520, Hawk 75

US:  B-17F, B-24D, A-26,  P-39, B-25s, SB2C, TBD,

Italian:  Cant Z.1007, CR-42, G.50, BR-20, MC.200, Re 2000,

Russian:  LaGG-3, Yak-1, Yak-7, Yak-9D, Yak-3, I-16, I-15*, Il-4, Pe-2, Pe-8, SB-2, Tu-2, TB-3, P-39. MiG-3, Su-2 (off the top of my head)

IJA:  Ki-21, Ki-27, Ki-30, Ki-43, Ki-44, Ki-45, Ki-49

IJN:  A5M, G4M, J1N, B6N, D4Y, P1Y
 
Others:  Fokker D.XXI (various models), PZL P.23, PZL P.11

Night Bombing (assuming changes to radar system, oblique guns, etc.)
German:  Nightfighter versions of Bf-110, Ju-88, and Do-217, He-219
Brit:  Halifax, Wellington, Hampden, Stirling, Whitley

Geez, that's a buttload of planes.  But if we want to do anything in TOD other than bomb Germany, without either glaring absences or hokey substitutions, we gotta start getting some of these birds.


SPOT ON BH  :aok    least some know what it is gonna take to get TOD where it needs to be............if it is going to prevail! with that list should be no buts or ifs about it.........;)
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« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2005, 04:17:44 PM »
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Does anyone ever get the feeling that all some people want to do is show how many WWII aircraft they can name?


~DaveJ


Maybe, but not in this case. BH and I have had some pretty good conversations about planeset expansion. In fact, I really wish I had the time and energy to work on what he has there. Though, as long as he has the D4Y and B6N in there, I'm happy lol.

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« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2005, 04:41:42 PM »
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Does anyone ever get the feeling that all some people want to do is show how many WWII aircraft they can name?


~DaveJ


I'm just happy when some 2 week guy doesn't come in and name off 7 planes that we already have in game.
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