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Offline Replicant

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« Reply #45 on: November 15, 2005, 01:01:16 PM »
I see no problem with that quote.  I don't particularly like it but it's probably true to Palestinian people/families involved in terrorism.

It's no different than the IRA being called Freedom Fighters by some and terrorists by others.  They're officially terrorists but I've heard some people on this forum call them freedom fighters.  Go figure.
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« Reply #46 on: November 15, 2005, 01:25:16 PM »
"Militants" is a favorite term for the media, its "terrorist-lite", all the TNT but only 1/2 the guilt.
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« Reply #47 on: November 15, 2005, 02:28:38 PM »
there is no way to "see the other side"  suicide bombing, video beheadings.. car bombs..  against innocents.. these are terrorists acts...

Don't want to be called a terrorist?  then don't do terrorist acts.

And... I really don't care why they do what they do.  

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« Reply #48 on: November 15, 2005, 03:47:39 PM »
It's not terrorist versus freedom fighter thing.

Terrorism is a method of waging war.

Fighting for freedom is an ideological goal.

Freedom fighters can (and do) engage in terrorism. This doesn't mean that all freedom fighters are terrorists.
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« Reply #49 on: November 15, 2005, 05:25:46 PM »
Sandman.

IMO, a "freedom fighter" uses unconventional warfare (guerilla) methods to attack legitimate government, military, and infrastructure targets in order to acheive his goals.  Casualties among the general populace, in this case, can be considered as "collateral damage", a consequence of military action.  Blowing up a police station, a government building, or attacking a military patrol are examples of this type of activity.

A terrorist attacks the general populace in order to acheive his goals.  Casualties among the general populace are the method and desired effect.  Exploding a bomb in a subway, attacking an airport, or taking hostages fit in this category.

I disagree with the premise that "one man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist".  I really think there are objective ways to evaluate methods vs. goals.  That's the criterion I would use.  Your opinion may differ.
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« Reply #50 on: November 15, 2005, 06:22:31 PM »
Comparing KKK and Islamic fundamenalists is a bit of a stretch.
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« Reply #51 on: November 15, 2005, 06:33:31 PM »
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Comparing KKK and Islamic fundamenalists is a bit of a stretch.


How so?

Both are motivated by hatred and feelings of justified anger.
Both use violence against innocents to acheive their goals.
Both are readily identified with a warped religious ethnic image.
Both deserve a good azzwhuppin.
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« Reply #52 on: November 15, 2005, 06:48:09 PM »
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Let me see if I have this right... easy scenario here.

If SOB was flying a twittler Biplane and "intentually" dived and took out an enemy hanger fully knowing that it would cost him his life would he then be refered to as "Martyr twittler SOB"?

 :huh
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I don't believe no one caught the play on words... Sheesh are we all so "Anal Retentive" that we can't laff at a good stab?  I worked a good maybe 3 minutes on that.  

Tuff crowd, no wonder the waitresses are pissssed.....

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« Reply #53 on: November 15, 2005, 06:53:57 PM »
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Comparing KKK and Islamic fundamenalists is a bit of a stretch.


BIG stretch..........at least we haven't firebombed a Mosque yet with 3 Islamic girls inside that showed up early to practice piano...

Nor have we interupted a Soccor game to do a beheading... Evil is just that, Evil.

Lets just NUKE the Hell out of the World and let start it all over again.  Seems fair. The inhabitants occupying this planet now don't deserve to live on it....

But the War is still young......


Mac

Ohhh forgot...


~Touche~

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This thread is going nowhere but Hate...

World needs better, all around.

or let it Burn!

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« Reply #54 on: November 15, 2005, 06:57:37 PM »
Comparing the two is like comparing a school bully who stuffed a kid in a trash can and a serial killer.  Yes, some of their motives are the same.  But please, their methods are different.  

P.S.  Ur nuts
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« Reply #55 on: November 15, 2005, 08:06:10 PM »
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Sandman.

IMO, a "freedom fighter" uses unconventional warfare (guerilla) methods to attack legitimate government, military, and infrastructure targets in order to acheive his goals.


I tell you what... if a country invaded ours and then sent their families in here as well, I'd feel no compunction at all targeting their wives and children.
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« Reply #56 on: November 15, 2005, 08:50:59 PM »
i am willing to bet that a huge majority of you dont even watch BBC news. dont comment on what you dont know. is it objective for the american media to call firefighters or soldiers heros? no. the word hero is an opinion. i personally dont take shots at ANY media outlet that i dont read, watch, or listen to on the radio. so do yourselves a favor and flip the channel to BBC America and view for yourselves. but dont take ONE FRIGGIN CAPTION UNDER ONE SINGLE PHOTO AND JUDGE THEM FOR IT!!! that is called prejudice.
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« Reply #57 on: November 15, 2005, 09:05:55 PM »
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i am willing to bet that a huge majority of you dont even watch BBC news. dont comment on what you dont know. is it objective for the american media to call firefighters or soldiers heros? no. the word hero is an opinion. i personally dont take shots at ANY media outlet that i dont read, watch, or listen to on the radio. so do yourselves a favor and flip the channel to BBC America and view for yourselves. but dont take ONE FRIGGIN CAPTION UNDER ONE SINGLE PHOTO AND JUDGE THEM FOR IT!!! that is called prejudice.


and if you happen to watch and read the bbc, what's it called then?  Or am I not supposed to have an opnion on somone that refers to mass murderers as heroes?  

BIIIIIIGGGGGGGGG difference.....Firefighter... ..suicide bomber????? We report you decide ;)
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« Reply #58 on: November 15, 2005, 11:13:16 PM »
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...Nor have we interupted a Soccor game to do a beheading... Evil is just that, Evil...


As you certainly know, there are no klan members at soccer games
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« Reply #59 on: November 16, 2005, 12:17:11 AM »
If you read through the entire sequence you will find that the "to some" is referring to the Palestinians in particular rather than everyone in the universe. A s such it is a perfectly reasonably statement.

This just seems to be yet another case or right wingers determined to find bias in new outfits, especially ones that have journalistic credibility.
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