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« Reply #30 on: November 20, 2005, 12:40:32 AM »
Looks like the snowball is turning into landslide.


Call it operation " Doodlebug ".

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« Reply #31 on: November 20, 2005, 11:57:53 AM »
V1 would be nice. At least it shows up on dar and is catchable. ;)
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #32 on: November 20, 2005, 10:14:20 PM »
V1 , would be more fun to intercept in tempest:)

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« Reply #33 on: November 20, 2005, 10:53:30 PM »
V1 would be interesting to intercept. Try to shoot the wings of versus shooting for the body, lest you enact the high-speed chemical reaction of B O-squared M.
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« Reply #34 on: November 21, 2005, 09:35:28 AM »
Jeez, how did the V1 creep into this? They are worlds apart (V2 and V1), apart from one thing - they were both very very - times a zillion - inaccurate. Your bomber perks would be more useful if you flushed them down a fancy perked toilet that should be available in the hanger. Why isn't it? A Natter (look em up) would be a more fun way to spend perks. Maybe a V3? Why's nobody asking for one of them? Super gun. Deadly gas might be a good addition too or... They tested Anthrax in my country (Scotland) during the war, so maybe that should qualify for AH...:rolleyes:
Oh and of course, the Nazis developed flying saucers, so we should have them too. Perked of course and and and...

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« Reply #35 on: November 21, 2005, 10:59:28 AM »
The BP 20 M17(Natter) was a hopeless project Just ask Gefreiter Lothar Sieber the only person to pilot the Natter.Oh you cant cuz he died on the inaugural flight.It was a good idea just not enough time left too really put it into use.

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« Reply #36 on: November 21, 2005, 11:08:58 AM »
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Jeez, how did the V1 creep into this?


  We just talking, Not long time ago, i seen a movie on Discovery Wings, about V1. They said that about 2000 were shot down by AA, and same amount V1s were intercepted by RAF, some of them were kicked down from the sky without fireing, but flying close , and inserting the fighter plane wing under V1's wing and flip them over. I was just thinking would be fun to have them in game.:)

 V2 would be useless in game,  cuz can't be shot down , maybe would be hard to intercept them with todays technology.Was first balistic missile operational, and had about same perfomances like the  SCUD ussed in IRAK. I seen a movie about failure of Patriot  intercepting SCUD, in first golf war, It shows that not a single Scud was succesfuly intercepted. The succsesful interception was just propaganda, and advertising for Patriot sales.
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« Reply #37 on: November 21, 2005, 12:28:45 PM »
V2 - you'd have to set the initial launch angles manually prior to launch (not specify the target) and it'd cost perkies every time. I'd love to see trees spontaneously explode.
Here we are, living on top of a molten ball of rock, spinning around at a 1,000mph, orbiting a nuclear fireball and whizzing through space at half-a-million miles per hour. Most of us believe in super-beings which for some reason need to be praised for setting this up. This, apparently, is normal.

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« Reply #38 on: November 21, 2005, 03:05:56 PM »
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V2 - you'd have to set the initial launch angles manually prior to launch (.


 V1 and V2,  were equiped with gyroscop compass, not  the "initial launch angles" keept them on trajectory

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« Reply #39 on: November 22, 2005, 03:21:19 AM »
Yeh - but for game play setting the angles would be tougher.

OK... you don't need to use angle settings - natural variations in wind and air pressure would make them pretty inaccurate.
Here we are, living on top of a molten ball of rock, spinning around at a 1,000mph, orbiting a nuclear fireball and whizzing through space at half-a-million miles per hour. Most of us believe in super-beings which for some reason need to be praised for setting this up. This, apparently, is normal.

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« Reply #40 on: November 25, 2005, 12:42:30 AM »
V-2 Rocket Operations
The V-2 was the first practical modern ballistic missile. Its operation was complex and involved specialized transport and launching equipment. Unlike the V-1 flying bomb operated by the Luftwaffe, the German army operated the V-2 rocket. Erecting, servicing, and launching a V-2 took from four to six hours, and required some 32 different trailers and vehicles carrying fuel, batteries, pumps, spare parts, radios, and other equipment. The entire operation required hundreds of soldiers, with the launch team alone needing more than 100 people to service and test the rocket, survey the site, run the support equipment, and command the process. In all, more than 10,000 people and 3,000 vehicles were devoted to V-2 activities.



After rail transport to the launching vicinity, large mobile cranes loaded rockets onto trailers, which took them to the actual launch site. The V-2 on display is on such a trailer, called a Meillerwagen. The best launch sites were flat, wooded areas with clearings big enough to operate the missile and with ground or pavement firm enough to hold it. At the launch site, crews raised the rocket vertically with the Meillerwagen, then fueled it with alcohol and liquid oxygen. After several tests and adjustments, the rocket could be fired from the safety of an armored control car some distance away. The V-2’s rocket engine burned for about a minute. The missile then continued in a ballistic unpowered trajectory to its target. During its flight, the V-2 reached an altitude of 50-60 miles, and its top speed was around 3,400 mph


The V-2, once launched, could not be stopped—it was too fast and flew too high. Since the V-2 arrived at several times the speed of sound, there could be no warning of its approach. The missiles impacted before the sonic boom they created was heard. Allied efforts to prevent rocket attacks depended on bombing production facilities and attacking rail transit with fighters. Allied airpower destroyed many V-2s before they reached launch sites; the V-2 on display here was damaged in an air attack.


Germany produced nearly 6,000 V-2s in 1944-45. Like the V-1, the V-2 was inaccurate. It could only be aimed at a large area, like a city. Together, the V-1 and V-2 missed their aim points by an average of more than nine miles. The first operational V-2 launch took place on September 8, 1944, and the last on March 30, 1945. During this seven-month period, 1,115 V-2s hit England, and 1,524 fell on continental Europe. Many V-2s broke up or exploded in the air, and around 15 percent were never launched due to ground malfunctions. The total damage done in England by the rockets included 2,754 killed and 6,523 severely wounded. Some of the worst V-2 attacks included the destruction of a cinema in Antwerp (561 killed), and an impact on a crowded Antwerp street that killed 128 people.

V-2 Missile
The German army developed the V-2, known also as the A4 missile, as an alternative to super-long-range artillery, which the Treaty of Versailles prohibited after World War I. Designed by rocket pioneer Wernher von Braun, the V-2 was a breakthrough in missile technology but failed to prevent Germany’s defeat in World War II. The rocket was inaccurate, which made it a poor military weapon but an effective terror device. Though the rocket was destructive, killing almost 3,000 people in England and probably even more in Belgium in the last year of the war, the German forced-labor system could not produce enough V-2s to affect the outcome of the war. In any case, the comparatively small power of V-2 attacks could not match the massive effect of Allied strategic bombing. After the war, the German rocket team and many captured missiles were brought to the United States, where V-2 technology helped to build the technological base for human spaceflight and advanced strategic missiles.

TECHNICAL NOTES
Warhead: 2,152 or 2,205 lbs Amatol 39A explosive
Maximum speed: 3,400 mph
Range: 180-220 miles
Maximum altitude: 50-60 miles
Weight: 28,000 lbs fueled

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« Reply #41 on: December 09, 2005, 02:30:55 PM »
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I seen a movie about failure of Patriot  intercepting SCUD, in first golf war, It shows that not a single Scud was succesfuly intercepted. The succsesful interception was just propaganda, and advertising for Patriot sales.


True that the Patriots were not as successful as first believed (of course they weren't designed for this task).  False that it was propaganda.  Observed performance seemed to indicate success during the war.   Patriots flew, warheads detonated, Scuds came down in parts.  Post-war analysis however, showed no evidence that actual intercepts took place (either direct impact or frag damage), instead, it appears that two things happened.  The SCUDs were so poorly made/maintained that some broke apart inflight on reentry.  Second, it appears that Patriot detonations (the shock wave) may have destablized the SCUDs causing already crummy missiles to breakup.  

Nice try on on your "don't trust the bastards" routine though.

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« Reply #42 on: December 10, 2005, 06:31:33 AM »
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I think all SR-71 pilots would disagree with that, they flew surprisingly accurate at that velocity


Then again, technology was a little less advanced back in the 40's ;)