Author Topic: Kills vs. assists? (Read 1656 times)

BlauK · « **on:** November 16, 2005, 08:35:12 AM »

I have been in belief that the one who does most damage gets the kill. Still in many occasions I have doubted it. Now finally I cannot believe it anymore, or there are just some other occasional factors effecting the outcome.

Some days a ago I I had to bail out above the enemy base. The ack was down and none of the GV:s seemed to notice me, so I walked beside the runway nearby the fighter spawn point. Suddenly there was a rolling fighter and I took one shot at it with the hand gun, saw a flash, but nothing else. A minute or two later I got a kill message... one of my squad mates told me on the vox that he had shot that plane with 30mm cannon!!!!! ... he only got the assist while I got the kill!!!

It is a pity that I dont have any film of it, although I dont know if it would help.

....

Soon after that I noticed something small in the end of the runway and began walking towards it... someone had spawned with a bomber and bailed out immediately. He took a shot at me with his hand gun and I hear a hit (ping), but stayed alive and returned a killing shot at him

True western style shootout. Well.. he got me the second time

lolo · « **Reply #1 on:** November 16, 2005, 08:54:35 AM »

Hi,

the same situation was, when I was shot a Tiger (20mm from my La-7).

No result - of course.

1 min later I take a kill .... Tiger was shot down by 2 or 3 our PzkwIV.

I think, the situation on this matter is:

"When You shot 1 bullet first - You got a kill..."

New Bug?

Brgds
Lolo aka 1olo
315 SQ Polish

hitech · « **Reply #2 on:** November 16, 2005, 09:11:35 AM »

Belive what you will. But he who does the most damage gets the kill.

HiTech

straffo · « **Reply #3 on:** November 16, 2005, 09:15:31 AM »

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Originally posted by hitech
Belive what you will. But he who does the most damage gets the kill.

HiTech

It's true also for GV ?

Last night I put 2*1000 lbs on a tank and someone who strafed the panzer got the kill. I don't think a spit can make a lot of damages on a pzr well not more than 2 thousand lbs bombs.

FiLtH · « **Reply #4 on:** November 16, 2005, 09:18:38 AM »

I see it daily. I hit something pretty good with 50s, and some guy comes in with cannon and he gets the kill. Seems to me the guy who does most damage gets awarded.

megadud · « **Reply #5 on:** November 16, 2005, 09:24:28 AM »

what i hate is when you see a plane unharmed and shoot off it's wings and tail and get assist.

Morpheus · « **Reply #6 on:** November 16, 2005, 09:33:06 AM »

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Originally posted by megadud
what i hate is when you see a plane unharmed and shoot off it's wings and tail and get assist.

Probably because one of us is behind you ready to shoot the hell out of it on its way down.

Dead Man Flying · « **Reply #7 on:** November 16, 2005, 09:33:11 AM »

Anybody who tries to pop a cap in a plane that's rolling down the runway deserves the kill and some sort of award.

-- Todd/Leviathn

BlauK · « **Reply #8 on:** November 16, 2005, 09:35:58 AM »

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Originally posted by hitech
Belive what you will. But he who does the most damage gets the kill.

HiTech

Well HiTech, sorry if you are upset about it, but could you at least offer some speculation or explanation on that handgun episode?

Could I have hit the pilot and taken most hitpoints from the pilot and the that 30mm also hit the pilot and only got the remaining points? It does not seem very likely though that the pilot would have taken off wounded and fought for a minute or two, but who knows...

Sketch · « **Reply #9 on:** November 16, 2005, 01:47:54 PM »

So...what if a Spit hits some bombers with his .303's, takes out a flap and rudder. I come in with my Tiffie and rip the wing to hell and back and it starts on fire.... Spit comes in for a second pass, (seeing the easy kill), and takes off the guys wing. Do I have the kill or the Spit....

AKFokerFoder+ · « **Reply #10 on:** November 16, 2005, 01:53:00 PM »

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Originally posted by FiLtH
I see it daily. I hit something pretty good with 50s, and some guy comes in with cannon and he gets the kill. Seems to me the guy who does most damage gets awarded.

And that is a big reason not to take a plane that is armed with 50 cals. The American 50 cal armed planes are not as effective in Main Arcade gameplay as cannons. Certainly the guns package is a big reason I select any ride.

Iceman24 · « **Reply #11 on:** November 16, 2005, 02:06:28 PM »

HiTech I would luv to believe you but have had so many circumstances where I have litterally cut a plane in half with MG's and then somebody else puts a ping on him as hes crashing into the ground and gets my kill. Same thing on buffs, I have cut wings off em, set em on fire, all kinds of crap, only to see someone dive down and put a ping on em and kill them... Have even had a few where I shoot until the other plane explodes and I still get an assist because joe blow pinged an aleron off him.... Maybe I am misunderstanding the damage factor. I am under the impression that if I fire 10 rounds and take a fighters tail off and he's falling then someone else comes in and shoots 100 rounds but doesn't converge enough to do any noticable damage does he get the kill ? Let me re-phrase... Is it the the most hits, no matter where or how much damage it causes or is it actuall damage, such as a wing being blown off or a tail being blown off that counts for the kill... So as to say plane A shoots 5 ea 20mm's, and blows a planes wings off. Then plane B dives down and fires ( spray and pray ) 500 rounds and gets hits all over the plane, but doesn't actually do any damage.... who gets the kill ?

Iceman24 · « **Reply #12 on:** November 16, 2005, 02:10:06 PM »

I see it daily. I hit something pretty good with 50s, and some guy comes in with cannon and he gets the kill. Seems to me the guy who does most damage gets awarded.

good point, anytime I see a gv I try and be the 1st person to put rounds on it just for that purpose, i don't care if I'm using .303's firing them at a T34, all I have to do is put a few pings on it, then wait for someone to drop a bomb on it and i get the kill, at least the majority of the time

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #13 on:** November 16, 2005, 02:30:58 PM »

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Originally posted by BlauK
Well HiTech, sorry if you are upset about it, but could you at least offer some speculation or explanation on that handgun episode?

Could I have hit the pilot and taken most hitpoints from the pilot and the that 30mm also hit the pilot and only got the remaining points? It does not seem very likely though that the pilot would have taken off wounded and fought for a minute or two, but who knows...

You hit the pilot causing fatal injuries that would have resulted in the death of the pilot no matter if someone else came along and removed the wing or blew up the plane with a 30mm cannon burst.

ack-ack

megadud · « **Reply #14 on:** November 16, 2005, 03:02:30 PM »

i'm not one to whine about things on BBS but i was MA doing my usual pwnage in my spit 16 so i see a 109. i go to shoot him and i catch him on fire. i took my eye off him for maybe 30 seconds then folled him watching him burn. He was after a buff so maybe the buff got a ping or 2 on him but he was unharmed whenh i caught him on fire. no one touched him after that. He stops burning and plumbits into the ground and i get a freakin assist. It was some of the biggest BS i have ever seen in this game!

if your system is right then you need to change it. someone can pelt a plane with bbs and it is fine not smoking or missing anything and i blow him up and get assist>? does that make any sense at all?