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Offline Sandman

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« on: November 16, 2005, 05:17:03 PM »
http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/baseball/13180708.htm

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Congress thought so as well. Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Jim Bunning, R-Ky., a former pitcher and member of baseball's Hall of Fame, last week proposed legislation that would have assessed a half-season penalty for a first offense, a full-season penalty for a second offense and a lifetime ban for a third offense.

That legislation would have covered not only baseball but also the NFL, NBA and NHL.


http://www.thehilltoponline.com/media/paper590/news/2005/11/08/Sports/Congress.Revisits.Steroids.Penalties-1049246.shtml

Where do they think they get the authority to dictate policy for private companies?

IMHO, the major leagues should tell Congress to piss off.
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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2005, 05:25:58 PM »
For once I agree...this to me is along the same lines as telling privately owned resturants that the owner can't decide wether to let people smoke or not.
(though those are brought to you by your local Soviet errm uhh city councils)
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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2005, 05:32:09 PM »
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where do they think they get the authority to dictate policy for private companies?

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You kinda sound like you remember the 1950-60's

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Offline Sandman

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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2005, 05:33:27 PM »
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You kinda sound like you remember the 1950-60's

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No likely... I was born in 1962. ;)
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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2005, 05:36:25 PM »
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Under the current system, the first-time offenders of the steroid policy receive a 10-game suspension, followed by 30-day and 60-day bans for subsequent failed tests. According to the AP, Selig proposed a 50-game ban for a first offense, a 100-game ban for the second and a lifetime ban for the third positive test
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Offline Sandman

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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2005, 05:43:05 PM »
I think Selig can propose whatever he pleases for baseball.
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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2005, 05:47:51 PM »
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Sandy.. outta WHO's control?

I agree, congress oughta keep it's nose outta this.. but if congress can stick it's nose into Enron and Standard Oil, why not 'professional' sporting companies?

As an afterthought.. didn't I see on the news last night that Baseball just adopted a new 3-strike rule? 50 game suspension, first offense, 100 game suspension for the second and a lifetime ban for the third?

Look, I surrendered my class 1 (18 wheeler) license the day congress imposed urine testing on truck drivers for amphetemines and other drugs.. you could be an alcoholic and get away with it, but god help the trucking company caught with a driver hittin an 18 hour day with bennies. I'm not at all annoyed that professional sprots folks fall under the same gun.. Hell, I saw no baseball hero's beyatching when congress came after MY income...

But to be fair.. show me a link to a petition that has wording I can agree with and I'll sign it.. I don't want government yanking any more competent pro's off the roads or the playing field via an arbitrary and likely to fallible testing system that can smear a guy's rep for life just because a lab tech blew a test sequence or mixed up a sample..
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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2005, 05:49:22 PM »
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Where do they think they get the authority to dictate policy for private companies?

IMHO, the major leagues should tell Congress to piss off.


They probably do not have well established authority over football, basketball, or hockey, but there is a federal mandate over baseball which has to do with MLB having a shield against anti-trust legislation (since 1922) that other enterprises must follow.

The NBA had to deal with the ABA, the NFL with the WFL, USFL, and XFL, but baseball hasn't had to deal with a competitive league since the demise of the Federal League (1914-1915)
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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2005, 05:55:32 PM »
Seems like Congress is reaching into an area that really you have to wonder if they have any business messing in.  Trying to understand why they are doing this, about the only thing I can come up with is concern that children who view the major league players as heros or role models might want to emulate their performance and when they can, they would also follow the roid path to performance.  It's the only thing I can think of, but I think it really should be handled by the leagues themselves.

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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2005, 06:14:57 PM »
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 Trying to understand why they are doing this, about the only thing I can come up with is concern that children who view the major league players as heros or role models might want to emulate their performance and when they can, they would also follow the roid path to performance.  

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http://www.campuschamps.com/performance_help/stay_healthy/dangers_of_steroid_abuse.shtml

Its definately a concern in the academic dept regarding highschool kids, and the recent explosion of high school GIRLS that are using them is disturbing to say the least....maybe Congress is fearful of the streets being filled with young highschool girls that have moustaches?
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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2005, 06:32:35 PM »
You mean congress would regulate something that influences millions of american children?



HOW DARE THEY!?  :mad:
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« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2005, 06:33:36 PM »
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I the recent explosion of high school GIRLS that are using them is disturbing to say the least...


Unless it made their boobs bigger.   :)
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« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2005, 06:46:46 PM »
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Unless it made their boobs bigger.   :)

Maybe they'll legalize estrogen without a perscription? :)
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« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2005, 06:47:06 PM »
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You mean congress would regulate something that influences millions of american children?

HOW DARE THEY!?  :mad:


I think you overestimate the influence of MLB on children.
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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2005, 06:47:28 PM »
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You mean congress would regulate something that influences millions of american children?



HOW DARE THEY!?  :mad:


Remember the democrats of the 90's..."its for the children!" :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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