P-63 D model When built?

[agent 009]

437 mph. Outclimb Mustang, but what about altitude performance? Not C model, D model which only one was produced.

Also interested in wing loading in 63 D & Mustang D.

[Krusty]

http://www.rdrop.com/users/hoofj/p39d.htm

That's from Warbirds, which had the P39 modeled. some interesting info.


EDIT: also check out:

http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/URG/p39.htm

[Widewing]

Originally posted by agent 009
437 mph. Outclimb Mustang, but what about altitude performance? Not C model, D model which only one was produced.

Also interested in wing loading in 63 D & Mustang D.

Ah, the P-63..... Possibly the best low-level fighter of the war. Below 15,000 feet the P-63 (any version) handily beat the P-51D in every measure of performance. It wasn't as fast up high and lacked the range to have any chance of being adopted for full service. About 410 mph at 25,000 feet. However, in WEP, wet, it could do better than 378 mph at sea level and around 422 mph at around 16,000 feet (virtually a dead heat with the Tempest Mk.V). Climb rate, again with WEP and water injection (wet) was tremendous. Time required to climb to 10,000 feet was just 1.8 minutes... Wing loading was about 15% less than the P-51D. Both had laminar flow wing designs, but the P-63 had more wing area (248 sq/ft vs 233 sq/ft) and weighed about 1,000 lbs less. See Dean's America's Hundred Thousand for performance charts. Consider it the American La-7....

My regards,

Widewing

[Debonair]

I get the impression that range could have been vastly increased with DTs on the 3 hard points adding enough gas for about 2 hours at mil power

[pellik]

No don't add anything that challanges the uberness of the p38.

[Wolfala]

Originally posted by Widewing
Ah, the P-63..... Possibly the best low-level fighter of the war. Below 15,000 feet the P-63 (any version) handily beat the P-51D in every measure of performance. It wasn't as fast up high and lacked the range to have any chance of being adopted for full service. About 410 mph at 25,000 feet. However, in WEP, wet, it could do better than 378 mph at sea level and around 422 mph at around 16,000 feet (virtually a dead heat with the Tempest Mk.V). Climb rate, again with WEP and water injection (wet) was tremendous. Time required to climb to 10,000 feet was just 1.8 minutes... Wing loading was about 15% less than the P-51D. Both had laminar flow wing designs, but the P-63 had more wing area (248 sq/ft vs 233 sq/ft) and weighed about 1,000 lbs less. See Dean's America's Hundred Thousand for performance charts. Consider it the American La-7....

My regards,

Widewing

Interesting note - the russians were preparing the 63's to combat americans after the fall of berlin.

[Tony Williams]

The P-63D was also the only model to pack the 37mm M9 gun, which was a high-velocity piece, far more powerful than the usual M4 and M10.

Tony Williams: Military gun and ammunition website and discussion forum

[Holden McGroin]

P-63A 37 mm std, V-1710-93 1325 HP -- 1725 built

P-63B 37 mm std, Merlin Variant -- only prototype

P-63C 37 mm std, V-1710-117 1500 HP -- 1227 built

P-63D 37 mm std, V-1710-109 1425 HP - sliding canopy -- 1 built

P-63E 37 mm std, V-1710-109 1425 HP -- Car door 13 built

P-63F 37 mm std, V-1710-135 1425 HP -- 2 built

RP-63F, -- 442 built Target plane

[agent 009]

Thanks Tony. Now how bout altitude performance for D model? was it better than C?

& was new cannon good for tankbusting?

& most importantly, when did the D fly? Could it have been available in numbers spring 44?

[Tony Williams]

Originally posted by agent 009
& was new cannon good for tankbusting?

Yes, the 37mm M9 would have been very good for tankbusting: it developed more muzzle energy than either the Bk 3,7 used in the Ju 87G or the NS-37 used in the Yak-9T and Il-2 3M. See: http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/tankbusters.htm for more details.

Tony Williams: Military gun and ammunition website and discussion forum

[agent 009]

One wonders how the 109 would have handled with the P-63's laminar flow wings. which were lighter than Mustang's.

[lasersailor184]

I could be mistaken (it's been a while).  But the P63 is in Il2, right?


I always thought it was a dog.  But then again, maybe it just didn't fit in with my fighting style.

[Ghosth]

Well with just short of 3000 built its a plane I'd like to see in AH.

How much ammo did it carry for that 37mm?

Faster than a Pony down low and punch's harder than the yak9t. Me WANT!

[Tony Williams]

Originally posted by Ghosth
How much ammo did it carry for that 37mm?

The P-63A started with the same 37mm M4 cannon as the P-39 (37x145R ammo), with a 30-round magazine.

From the P-63A-9 onwards (IIRC) the gun was switched to the 37mm M10, which was the same as the M4 except belt-fed and slightly faster-firing. It carried 58 rounds.

The single P-63D with the M9 cannon (37x223SR ammo) was belt-fed and carried 48 rounds.

TW

[Angus]

Kingcobra.
One of the few mass produced WW2 aircraft remaining to be put into AH, - that being a MA-caliber. Definately one! The P39 could enter as well, almost on the same artwork and the tag would be...."BELL"?