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House passes digital TV bill with Dec. 2008 deadline
« on: November 19, 2005, 08:04:40 PM »
Question.
Does this mean that everyone will now HAVE to pay for cable TV in order to get local channals?
Not that it matters to me as I have cable.
But I still come across folks who refuse to pay for TV or simply refuse to get cable and still use antenna.
When they want to watch something else. they rent or buy a DVD.


House passes digital TV bill with Dec. 2008 deadline
WASHINGTON (AP) — The House on Friday backed a plan to require television broadcasters to switch to all-digital transmissions by Dec. 31, 2008, three months earlier than they would have to under provisions of a Senate bill.
House lawmakers also voted to set aside $830 million to help millions of Americans with older, analog TV sets pay for converter boxes so they'll continue to get service in the digital era.

The Senate measure calls for a switch to all-digital by April 7, 2009 — after the March Madness college basketball playoffs. The converter box subsidy is significantly larger — $3 billion.

Differences in both bills will have to be worked out by House and Senate negotiators.

Digital television promises sharper pictures and better sound than analog TV.

But about 21 million households rely on free, over-the-air TV, so they'll need the converter box to keep receiving their television service after the switch to all-digital. Cable and satellite customers would not be affected.

Democratic lawmakers have complained that the House subsidy for converter boxes would only pay for about 10 million households, half the number of homes that would need them. Consumer groups say the $830 million would cover only about a quarter of homes.

"The funding level provided is woefully inadequate to ensure that consumers aren't forced to reach into their wallets to facilitate the government's mandated transition to digital television," said Jeannine Kenney of Consumers Union, the publisher of Consumer Reports.

House Republicans have said they don't expect wealthier Americans to request coupons for the boxes, and they expect the $830 million would cover those homes that really need help.

The move to all-digital will free valuable radio spectrum, some of which will be allocated to improve radio communications among fire and police departments and other first responders. The rest of the spectrum would be auctioned by the government for an estimated $10 billion, though private estimates put that number higher.

The converter boxes would be paid for with some of the spectrum money raised at auction. The boxes are expected to cost about $50 to $60. The bills in both chambers call for the government to pay about $40, with the consumer picking up the rest of the cost
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« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2005, 08:13:38 PM »
Is it about time to have warning signs on television just like on cigarettes and alcohol?
Warning, watching television will below your intelligence; read a book instead.

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« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2005, 08:37:30 PM »
The original FCC reg required TV stations to broadcast simultaneously in digital and analog.  This was to assist in the obvious transitional period.  This one is just taking it to the next step to where broadcasters no longer have to provide an analog signal after 2009, 4 years from now.  It is telling consumers to get ready, where the old reg was telling broadcasters to get ready.  Recorded music has made the jump to digital (CD, MP3, ect); radio is making the switch (Sirius, XM), which just like TV, will someday not be an option.  My advice is to, within the next 4 years, get a digital TV.  Most of us, if haven't already, will by then anyhow.  Almost all over-the-air TV stations today (if they are complying with current FCC regs) broadcast both in analog and digital.  This legislation frees them, rightly so, from coddling to antiquated technology.

To answer your question:

1.  "The Man" is always trying to figure out new ways to get us to pay for things we used to get for free.
2.  As long as the networks continue to broadcast over the air commercial TV will be free.

The article you quoted is slightly misleading.

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« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2005, 09:10:29 PM »
sooner analog is dead the better - it is a waste of space today
you can have at least 8 digital channels, most cram more, in the 6mhz an anolog now takes
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Re: House passes digital TV bill with Dec. 2008 deadline
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2005, 09:22:35 PM »
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Question.
Does this mean that everyone will now HAVE to pay for cable TV in order to get local channals?
Not that it matters to me as I have cable.
But I still come across folks who refuse to pay for TV or simply refuse to get cable and still use antenna.
When they want to watch something else. they rent or buy a DVD.


I believe that the converter boxes are for the over the air signals, they would convert the digital signal to analog.

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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2005, 10:00:36 PM »
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The original FCC reg required TV stations to broadcast simultaneously in digital and analog.  This was to assist in the obvious transitional period.  This one is just taking it to the next step to where broadcasters no longer have to provide an analog signal after 2009, 4 years from now.  


At least the digital disease has taken a longer time over there.

Over here it is nothing but a big mess with all the rush our government has had with it.
I don't think they've come up with a single stantard yet and there already should be some kind of clue whats its going to be.

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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2005, 10:04:52 PM »
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At least the digital disease has taken a longer time over there.

Over here it is nothing but a big mess with all the rush our government has had with it.
I don't think they've come up with a single stantard yet and there already should be some kind of clue whats its going to be.

Question of ignorance – Why is there such a Holy Grail search for crisper image, what is wrong with current TV?

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« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2005, 10:10:49 PM »
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Question of ignorance – Why is there such a Holy Grail search for crisper image, what is wrong with current TV?


I'm about as ignorant as you with the issue .
As far as I know, it is also about the services that a digital TV can offer.

Although I would've found it more sensible to spend government money on the internet than on something we already have (a small envy of the swedes policy).
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« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2005, 10:32:46 PM »
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Question of ignorance – Why is there such a Holy Grail search for crisper image, what is wrong with current TV?


It's more than a question of a better picture.  It's about saving bandwidth and energy.  It's also about progress moving foreward.  The reason our government is doing this is to avoid the mess that digital TV is in europe.  There will be a standard in the US (already is) and the rest of the world (as usual) will follow us.  This will be a neat and comfortable transition.  Although I don't think the gov needs to subsidize it.  Within the next 4 years most of us will be replacing our TVs anyways.  Haven't you all wondered why the price of analog TVs has gotten rediculously cheap?  It's because they will soon be useless.

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« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2005, 10:35:08 PM »
I love DirecTV, "Digital Cable" sucks as it still runs through "jumpers".

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« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2005, 10:43:17 PM »
I recenly switched from direct tv to charter digital and you're right; digital cable sucks.  Most of it isn't even digital.  All the basic channels are analog, just the premiums are digital.  Plus their menus are horrible.  The thing is, between the cable, charter pipeline, and vonage, I can't beat the price.  As soon as my 6 month incentive runs out, I'm going to basic analog cable.  Their internet on the other hand, is freaky fast.

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« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2005, 11:05:21 PM »
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It's more than a question of a better picture.  It's about saving bandwidth and energy.  It's also about progress moving foreward.  The reason our government is doing this is to avoid the mess that digital TV is in europe.  There will be a standard in the US (already is) and the rest of the world (as usual) will follow us.  This will be a neat and comfortable transition.  Although I don't think the gov needs to subsidize it.  Within the next 4 years most of us will be replacing our TVs anyways.  Haven't you all wondered why the price of analog TVs has gotten rediculously cheap?  It's because they will soon be useless.


Could you elaborate on ‘saving bandwidth and energy’?
My ideology TV = pure evil medium of mindless entertainment makes me skeptical of the reasons why government must insert itself into public’s business in order to enhance evilness of television.

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« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2005, 11:13:46 PM »
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I recenly switched from direct tv to charter digital and you're right; digital cable sucks.  Most of it isn't even digital.  All the basic channels are analog, just the premiums are digital.  Plus their menus are horrible.  The thing is, between the cable, charter pipeline, and vonage, I can't beat the price.  As soon as my 6 month incentive runs out, I'm going to basic analog cable.  Their internet on the other hand, is freaky fast.


I agree, with mysefl being into HT I sacrifice the Cable Porn Pipe with DSL.  Digital Cable is just another way for Cable Companies to bleed more money before this deadline is pushed back yet again.  Why?  So they can bleed more money and raise rates.  

Been with DirecTV fro 6 years, rates have never gone up a penny.

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« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2005, 11:16:24 PM »
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Question of ignorance – Why is there such a Holy Grail search for crisper image, what is wrong with current TV?


Go to a High End Home Theater Store and watch the picture from either a Loewe Aconda 38" or a Pioneer Elite Plasma.   You'll know why, anything else, is 3rd best.  

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« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2005, 12:11:59 AM »
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Go to a High End Home Theater Store and watch the picture from either a Loewe Aconda 38" or a Pioneer Elite Plasma.   You'll know why, anything else, is 3rd best.  

Karaya
You missed my discourse of evil medium of stupidity. It wasn’t about prettier picture…