Hillary

[wrag]

and why I won't be voting for her............  I recall another thread somewhere within this BBS asking people why they felt the way they do about Hillary Rodham Clinton.  I couldn't find these quotes at the time but here ya go.........

"We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what is best for society."~~Hillary Clinton, 1993

Many of you are well enough off that... the tax cuts may have helped you... We're saying that for America to get back on track, we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you. We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. -- Sen. Hillary Clinton, San Francisco, June 28, 2004 ~ or...



What she has said so far brings these people to mind!!!

"Comrades! We must abolish the cult of the individual decisively, once and for all."~~Nikita Khrushchev

"All our lives we fought against exalting the individual, against the elevation of the single person."~~Vladimir Lenin

"There is the great, silent, continuous struggle: the struggle between the State and the Individual."~~ Benito Mussolini

"The main plank in the National Socialist program is to abolish the liberalistic concept of the individual"~~Adolph Hitler

"...from each according to his means, to each according to his needs." -- Karl Marx, 19th Century

"An evil exists that threatens every man, woman and child of this great nation," the leader of another country once wrote. "We must take steps to ensure our domestic security and protect our homeland." ~~ Adolph Hitler, writing about creation of the Gestapo in Nazi Germany.

"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing."-- Adolph Hitler, Hitler's Secret Conversations [1961]

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it people will eventually come to believe it."~~Joseph Goebbels Nazi propoganda minister




And furthermore........  Hillary has taken stances on certain issues........

"How a politician stands on the Second Amendment tells you how he or she views you as an individual... as a trustworthy and productive citizen, or as part of an unruly crowd that needs to be lorded, controlled, supervised, and taken care of."
--REP. SUZANNA GRATIA HUPP (TX)


hmmmmmmmmmmmm................ ...........  Some others have made statements that make me wonder about politicians such as Hillary.

"Corrupt politicians inspire assassins. Of course they don't want people to have guns. Politicians never trust the people to whom they give reason to shoot them." ~~ Angel Shamaya

"Americans who value freedom had better be more concerned about the gun control crowd than the criminals. The criminals want your money. The Neo-Totalitarians want your freedom." ~~ Charlie Reese

"As nightfall does not come all at once, neither does oppression. In both instances, there is a twilight. And it is in such twilight that we all must be aware of change in the air, however slight, lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness." ~~ Justice William O. Douglas, U.S. Supreme Court



Soooo ................. I have NO intention of voting for Hillary.

[Skilless]

And watch as it nears election time.  Her stance will change.  Paraphrase-"When you paint a room, you move all the furniture to the middle.  After the paint dries, you can arrange it however you want." -Hillary Clinton.

And don't forget that it takes a village to raise a child...

[nirvana]

"Corrupt politicians inspire assassins. Of course they don't want people to have guns. Politicians never trust the people to whom they give reason to shoot them." ~~ Angel Shamaya

Don't take this the wrong way,but what was John F. Kennedy's stance on gun control?  I googled it and found nothing.

[wrag]

I found this..........

"Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom." ~~ John F. Kennedy


And this

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~~ John F. Kennedy

[nirvana]

I didn't think he was against limiting guns, then again I don't believe there was one shooter either:noid

[wrag]

Originally posted by nirvana
I didn't think he was against limiting guns, then again I don't believe there was one shooter either:noid

To my knowledge he was not.

Back then many politicians would NEVER take the stances of todays politicians.  They would have been out of office sooo fast.......

much has changed in a fairly short time it seems.

[montag]

HILLARY SAVE US! MAKE IT STOP!!!

[Nash]

Originally posted by wrag
and why I won't be voting for her............  I recall another thread somewhere within this BBS asking people why they felt the way they do about Hillary Rodham Clinton.  I couldn't find these quotes at the time but here ya go.........

"We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what is best for society."~~Hillary Clinton, 1993

Many of you are well enough off that... the tax cuts may have helped you... We're saying that for America to get back on track, we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you. We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. -- Sen. Hillary Clinton, San Francisco, June 28, 2004 ~ or...



What she has said so far brings these people to mind!!!

"Comrades! We must abolish the cult of the individual decisively, once and for all."~~Nikita Khrushchev

"All our lives we fought against exalting the individual, against the elevation of the single person."~~Vladimir Lenin

"There is the great, silent, continuous struggle: the struggle between the State and the Individual."~~ Benito Mussolini

"The main plank in the National Socialist program is to abolish the liberalistic concept of the individual"~~Adolph Hitler

"...from each according to his means, to each according to his needs." -- Karl Marx, 19th Century

"An evil exists that threatens every man, woman and child of this great nation," the leader of another country once wrote. "We must take steps to ensure our domestic security and protect our homeland." ~~ Adolph Hitler, writing about creation of the Gestapo in Nazi Germany.

"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing."-- Adolph Hitler, Hitler's Secret Conversations [1961]

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it people will eventually come to believe it."~~Joseph Goebbels Nazi propoganda minister




And furthermore........  Hillary has taken stances on certain issues........

"How a politician stands on the Second Amendment tells you how he or she views you as an individual... as a trustworthy and productive citizen, or as part of an unruly crowd that needs to be lorded, controlled, supervised, and taken care of."
--REP. SUZANNA GRATIA HUPP (TX)


hmmmmmmmmmmmm................ ...........  Some others have made statements that make me wonder about politicians such as Hillary.

"Corrupt politicians inspire assassins. Of course they don't want people to have guns. Politicians never trust the people to whom they give reason to shoot them." ~~ Angel Shamaya

"Americans who value freedom had better be more concerned about the gun control crowd than the criminals. The criminals want your money. The Neo-Totalitarians want your freedom." ~~ Charlie Reese

"As nightfall does not come all at once, neither does oppression. In both instances, there is a twilight. And it is in such twilight that we all must be aware of change in the air, however slight, lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness." ~~ Justice William O. Douglas, U.S. Supreme Court



Soooo ................. I have NO intention of voting for Hillary.

Has this place really gotten this retarded?

Here's the post:

Hillary said, (a) and (b).

Followed by: "What she has said so far brings these people to mind!!!"

Khrushchev
Lenin
Mussolini
Marx
Goebbels
Hitler
Hitler
Hitler

Gawdamn.....

We have met the enemy and he is us.

[rpm]

Cue Senator McCarthy...

[Debonair]

Hillary is a lot more like hitler than Bush is, alphabetically

[wrag]

Originally posted by Nash
Has this place really gotten this retarded?

Here's the post:

Hillary said, (a) and (b).

Followed by: "What she has said so far brings these people to mind!!!"

Khrushchev
Lenin
Mussolini
Marx
Goebbels
Hitler
Hitler
Hitler

Gawdamn.....

We have met the enemy and he is us.

IMHO all those that keep taking through the Taxation methods they currently use are pretty much thieves.  The original Income Tax was voluntary!  Read the words of the original tax as written!  Over the years it has become involuntary.  I still from time to time see films made in the late forties and early fifties that made reference to that.  The guys screams at some one... now see here I'm a tax payer!  Some thought of themselves as special because they volunteered to help repay the war debts.  Now they keep taking more and more and giving it away and telling us how lucky we are that they aren't taking even more............  Or that they are going to take more.

Currently, if you care to do the math, income tax and other taxes are taking right at 50%, or perhaps just over that, of every dollar spent in the U.S.

IMHO the mindset of those that came to mind is also represented in her words.  And her words are IMHO a representation of her.  IMHO she will be worse for our basic bill of rights and our freedoms then her husband.  IMHO she may promise the people much but she is going to charge a VERY high price for what she promises.  That is If she bothers to actually keep her promises.

She has said far more.  Can't find all the quotes.

Nash I take it you like Hillary and will vote for her should she run?  If you so choose, then do so SIR, as we both know that such is your right SIR.  

All that considered SIR I must ask........

Nash Do you really find it necassary to use the words "Has this place really gotten this retarded?"

Are you saying this because you disagree?  Are you making a verbal attack on the entire BBS?  Are you making a verbal attack directly on me?

RPM  ... Much has been made of that Senator and his doings at that time.  Sadly much of what he claimed regarding Communist infiltration was later PROVIN true.  I can't say I agree with what he did or the methods used.  IMHO it should have been handled in a very different manner.  Taking the very rights you claim to be defending does no one any good.  The attacks on those activities have made everyone avoid the entire situation.  Check the history please.

[Dago]

Hillary is a commie!

Hillary is evil!  No doubt it my mind.


Truthfully, I think Hillary is a lieing, scheming, manipulating, power and attention driven person who has no regard or respect for the American citizen, but rather holds the average citizen in low regard.

She will sway with the polls, she will say whatever she thinks you want to hear, but her actions will reflect her own agenda and disregard our rigths and desires.

I believe anyone who would vote for her lacks the ability to look beyond the facade and see the truth.

dago

Oh, btw, Nash, it doesnt matter what you think so be quiet, you are not a US citizens, so stay out of our business.  Go chop down a tree or something.  

[Jackal1]

Hillary. Ain`t gonna happen Jim.  

[lazs2]

she is a lying, mean and bitter commie and nash is jealous that she is ours and that he can't even vote for her.

lazs

[rpm]

Originally posted by wrag
RPM  ... Much has been made of that Senator and his doings at that time.  Sadly much of what he claimed regarding Communist infiltration was later PROVIN (sic) true.  I can't say I agree with what he did or the methods used.  IMHO it should have been handled in a very different manner.  Taking the very rights you claim to be defending does no one any good.  The attacks on those activities have made everyone avoid the entire situation.  Check the history please.

Yeah, Mc Carthy was a bright spot in history. You might want to brush up a bit yourself. I suggest going back about 150 years before McCarthy.