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« on: November 24, 2005, 03:41:58 PM »
As mentioned in another thread, wifey wants to try something new.  Like usual, this involves something nerve wracking like being bound, wrapped in plastic, and suspended in a mysterious liquid.  Unlike usual, it's a turkey and not me this time.  It pains me to do something other than deep fry (which is fantastic, as I'm sure you've heard) but in the interest of avoiding a divorce before I get my airplane, I'll roast this year.

We made a brine last night out of water, kosher salt, apple cider vinegar, rosemary, etc.  Cooled it to room temperature, then put the turkey in a double plastic bag and poured the brine in.  We flipped the bird (ho ho) a couple times so the brine would get other parts soaked and left it overnight.  

I preheated the oven to 500, drained the brine and patted the turkey dry, then chucked it into the oven.

My plan is to 500 it for 30 minutes to seal in the juices so they don't drain out, then 350 until the breast is like 150-155 degrees.  I figure that it'll continue to heat for a little after I take the turkey out of the oven to rest (never cut into meat immediately after coming out of the oven, that river of liquid pouring out is the moistness you crave) and that in all this, the dark meat should probably be about 140 for at least 15 minutes, which I think is enough to kill the bad stuff.

Any thoughts?  I haven't roasted in a while, and my old secrets for good juicy birds have been replaced by things like the "GOOSE A CAT" acronym for VFR airworthiness and the subtly wrong version of ohms law that threatens to send me to the emergency room every time I decide to install a new electrical component in my workshop or car.
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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2005, 03:46:18 PM »
Its a popular myth but searing does not seal in juices.  Might want to take the breast temp a bit closer to 160 range to avoid pinkness if my memory serves right.

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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2005, 03:59:22 PM »
Chairboy,

My turkey is in the resting mode as I type.

Last 6 turkeys I have used this recipe and have had perfect turkeys.

Alton is a cooking god.

http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/recipes/recipe/0,1977,FOOD_9936_8389,00.html

Temp needs to be 160ish

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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2005, 04:15:28 PM »
I'll stick a little closer to 160 for the breast, then.  That Alton Brown recipe in the link above is great, not least because it's essentially exactly what I've been planning to do on my own.  

Either I'm a genius, or he's giving out bad advice.  I'm hoping for the former, of course.

The turkey I took out and shielded after the 30 minutes at 500 is one tan turkey, hope it doesn't burn!  It's in at 350 right now.  We're having mashed potatos, stuffing, green bean casserole, waldorf salad, rolls, a veggie salad, some sweet potato something something (looks like sliced sweet potato with butter and brown sugar that I think she's baking), and more.  I'm starting on the gravy now, gonna chuck the giblets into a pan with some water and aromatics and simmer it for the next couple hours, then I'll strain it and pour the liquid in with the fat from the pan and contemplate a roux if it needs anything else.

Thanksgiving is fun!  I miss the deep fry experience, of course, but it'll still be good.
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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2005, 05:05:27 PM »
I make a roux and just keep it stored for months on end.  Just mix equal parts butter and AP flour in a pan and let it tan up.  The mix should be a paste like consistency.  Once cooked keep in fridge to toss into anything you might want to  thicken up.  This much better than doing it on the spot.

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« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2005, 05:16:07 PM »
Breast is up to about 120.  Can't wait!
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« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2005, 05:28:41 PM »
Chairboy,

Just finished perfect turkey number 7.  

You will never cook it any other way after this one.


I am looking forwared to the leftovers.

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« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2005, 10:07:25 PM »
Just finished dinner, it was great.  On the brine...  it was ok.  Not as good as deep frying, but not bad.

Give me hot oil anytime, though.  I can also throw it at my enemies in a pinch.
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« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2005, 09:11:29 AM »
Being a disciple of Alton Brown I always defer to his recipes and most importantly techniques.  Brinning is the way to go with poultry.