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Offline Skuzzy

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« Reply #30 on: November 30, 2005, 12:53:56 PM »
I would not have considered a Lexus, but the Wife told me they had a new sports sedan out and talked me into it.  It handles way better than I would have imagined.  Probably a bit too stiff for most people.  You really have to want a sports sedan to like the IS.
I drove both the 350 and 250.  The 250 is about 125 pounds lighter on the nose and you can feel it.  Initial turn-in on the 350 is a twitch slower than the 250.  The cars settle in on the line very well.  The high speed handling makes you giggle it feels so good.
First time I ever test drove a new car and got our wearing a very large grin.

I took it on a 700 mile road trip a couple of weeks ago and had a blast driving the car.  

Lexus hit the mark on this one.  I would say it is thier first true sports sedan.  I never considered the GS or ES to be sports sedans at all.

I really wanted the Infiniti G35 coupe, but I am too tall to fit in it.  Kind of glad I did not fit in it now.  I almost bought the BMW, and would have if the Wife had not urged me to try the Lexus.  I really do not think you can go wrong with either the Lexus IS250/350 or the BMW330, if you are looking for something in that class.
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« Reply #31 on: November 30, 2005, 01:22:14 PM »
So did Skuzzy just say that his wife influenced his sports car choice?!?!?:eek: :p

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« Reply #32 on: November 30, 2005, 01:46:03 PM »
My Wife likes sports cars, so I listen to her.  After she got me to the Lexus dealer, she did not say a word.  Kind of wierd actually.

After we closed on the car, she finally said, "It really looks like you.".  She has not driven it yet, so she has not made any comments about it other than on the looks.

I am still getting used to the high beltline.  I like the nose, and the tail of the car.  But I really am just nuts about the interior.  Like BMW, it's all business on the inside.  Lexus made good use of polished and brushed aluminum.  Not glitzy at all.  Very well done and clean.

The paddle shifters are CNC pieces of aircraft grade aluminum.  Very stout.  One oddity being the cruise control.  It is a stalk which is mounted to the steering column and turns with the steering wheel (just under the right paddle shifter).  Took a bit of getting used to, but now it feels very natural.

You can shift with the paddles or the shifter on the console, or you can let it do all the work for you.  Think standard transmission with an automatic clutch.  It has 3 driving modes.  Sport, Normal, and Snow.  
"Sport" chirps the tires when at full throttle during the upshifts and locks up fast during downshifts.  You have absolute control of the gears.
"Normal" almost feels like a full automatic transmission.  Hard to tell it is shifting unless you have your foot deep into the carpet.  In this mode the transmission will not shift into or out of a gear which could cause an overrev or lugging of the engine.
"Snow" takes throttle control away from you whenever the rear tires break loose.  Applies brakes if needed, to keep the rear tires from slipping.

I do not know about the "Snow" mode, but the other two work as advertised. :D
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« Reply #33 on: November 30, 2005, 01:59:04 PM »
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After we closed on the car, she finally said, "It really looks like you.".  

Oh now come on! That car isn't THAT ugly, Skuzzy! :p

The paddle shift system is something BMW has had in their M3 for about 3 years, I've heard pros and cons but mostly pros to it.  If you're going to go automatic, paddle shift is a must IMO. Personally I'm a gear shift kinda guy when it comes to sports cars but I've not tried the paddle shift so I'll hold my opinion.

Sounds like alot of fun Skuzzy.

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« Reply #34 on: November 30, 2005, 02:15:21 PM »
Hehe.  I did leave the door open for that one.

The paddle shifters are really only useful if you never have to take your hands from the wheel (i.e. you ain't turning a lot).  I use the console shifter more than the paddles.  If I need to keep both hands on the wheel, then I use the paddles.
Regardless of the way you shift, it all becomes automatic to you after a bit.

Heck, if I could have afforded an M3, I would be driving one in a heartbeat.  It is a hefty jump from $30K for the IS to the M3.
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« Reply #35 on: November 30, 2005, 02:21:10 PM »
I went into a Lexus dealer and after standing around for 30mins with noone asking if I needed help I left.
The Is350 i speced out on there website was 40K.

I am now thinking of  a Cadillac CTS-V with the 400hp  vette motor in it 0-60 in under 5 seconds and still rides well.
Only one big problem 51K sticker  now thats gonna be a hard sell to the wife.

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« Reply #36 on: November 30, 2005, 02:38:07 PM »
You must have put the GPS system in.  The base for the 350 is around $34K.  I think the GPS nav system adds $2,500 or so.  Did you spec the Harmon stereo too (another $1200).  There aren't many options to be had on the IS cars.

The Lexus dealership I bought from was really a very nice place and the sales person was not intrusive at all.  They had 2 IS's (a 250 and 350) and neither was for sale.  They used them for test drives as they could not keep the IS's on the lot.

The styling of the Cadillac is not my cup of tea so I never considered one.  I also have a hard time even considering an American made car anymore, but that is just me.

I keep my cars 10 years before getting a new one.  Longevity is important to me and cost of ownership is also important.  Everything I read still puts cost of ownership of American cars too high for my use.
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« Reply #37 on: November 30, 2005, 05:35:50 PM »
Yeah I think the Mark Levinson audio at 4k put it over the top:confused:

The wife had a lexus sc300 when we met and it was a cool car but at 6'4" i had
to lean my head over when I drove it.
I think I might run into the same problem with the Is 350 I think it has 37" of head room and I need 39.

I hate car shopping and would rather just buy a F-250 crew cab diesel pick up
and drive it till I die but it is her choice this time so I gotta go with the flow.

I did tell her to go by park place lexus and check one out cause truth be told I do like the sound of the paddle shifters:)

Lexus is a good car but like all cars the resale isnt as high as I would like to see
Wish we could afford a Porsche as there new Cayman is a sweet car.

Skuzzy If I remember you are pretty tall too right?
How is the fit ?

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« Reply #38 on: November 30, 2005, 05:40:15 PM »
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Oh now come on! That car isn't THAT ugly, Skuzzy! :p

The paddle shift system is something BMW has had in their M3 for about 3 years, I've heard pros and cons but mostly pros to it.  If you're going to go automatic, paddle shift is a must IMO. Personally I'm a gear shift kinda guy when it comes to sports cars but I've not tried the paddle shift so I'll hold my opinion.

Sounds like alot of fun Skuzzy.


The SMG uses a sequential manual box with automated shifting and clutch.  The Lexus just has a normal automatic slushbox with the ability to select gears via the paddles.  The only Toyota with something like SMG was the MR2 Spyder.

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« Reply #39 on: November 30, 2005, 05:56:08 PM »
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The SMG uses a sequential manual box with automated shifting and clutch.  The Lexus just has a normal automatic slushbox with the ability to select gears via the paddles.  The only Toyota with something like SMG was the MR2 Spyder.
Ah, thanks for clarifying that!

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« Reply #40 on: November 30, 2005, 08:59:50 PM »
If you go BMW go M5 or go Audi RSsomething ... RS6-RS4:confused:
Dat jugs bro.

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« Reply #41 on: December 01, 2005, 05:04:33 AM »
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If you go BMW go M5 or go Audi RSsomething ... RS6-RS4:confused:
Yup, thats what I would go with.  The new RS4.

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« Reply #42 on: December 01, 2005, 07:00:00 AM »
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Skuzzy If I remember you are pretty tall too right?
How is the fit ?
I am 6'3" and have plenty of head room in it.  But by the time I get the seat all the way back and leaned back a little, I am staring at the B pillar when I turn my head left.  I have to lean forward a bit to see to the direct left.
But I have to do that in all sedans, so its no big deal.  At least Lexus was thoughtful enough to include a telescoping/tilt steering wheel.
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« Reply #43 on: December 01, 2005, 11:49:36 AM »
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 At least Lexus was thoughtful enough to include a telescoping/tilt steering wheel.


That right there may be the saving grace for me.
the wife looked at the IS-350 lastnight she is 5'9" and said she had a few inches clearence over her head the only problem is that all they have is cars with sunroofs and it would take months to get one without it:rolleyes:

I find moon - sunroofs useless for us and just an added exspense and lose of headroom so I guess I am just going to have to drive the car myself.
Right now its down to between the lexus and the Cadillac.

The caddy will cost less but the lexus kicks its butt for power.
Also weighing in is that Lexus is rated #1 in customer satisfaction and Caddy is rated 4th.

Thanks for the info.

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« Reply #44 on: December 01, 2005, 12:16:41 PM »
No problem.  If you go over to Park Place Lexus, ask for Casey.  Good sales guy, and very non-intrusive.  Good luck with it.
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