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Offline 101ABN

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« on: November 29, 2005, 05:18:06 AM »
I recently downloaded the FS autostart and then began to shut down all unnecessary stuff... i still get some bad warping.. whats funny is that about 2 weeks ago, all was well... no warping or nothing.. now its getting out of hand again... this has to be my 50th post about warping... anyways... who knows where i can get a good spyware checker and remover.. are there any trusted shareware sites that have what im looking for??  please help, im having AH withdrawls...:O

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« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2005, 07:49:20 AM »
warping can be just plainly a bad internet route to AH2.  Have you run a ping plot?

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« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2005, 08:12:54 AM »
Here are a couple of programs: Lavasoft Ad-Aware and Spybot Search and Destroy. Those for checking spyware etc, then PingPlotter for checking your route (MA is 206.16.60.39).

edit: Spybot S&D has an option to backup your registry, I recommed to do that. You might also want to read the descriptions of the problems it finds before just removing them, since it can also remove something that is required by a program to run (or usually to update, such as backweb-client).
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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2005, 06:55:14 PM »
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warping can be just plainly a bad internet route to AH2.  Have you run a ping plot?



please explain in Barney terms for me.. how do you do that??

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« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2005, 07:10:01 PM »
In my earlier reply I have the link to PingPlotter, download it and then insert the MA ip 206.16.60.39 in the "Address to Trace" box in the upper left corner... You should see if there is any packet loss (PL%) in the route to the server. Under the edit menu you can copy the route details which you can then post here for the experts to see...

edit: here's a direct link: PingPlotter
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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2005, 08:03:22 PM »
Target Name: N/A
         IP: 206.16.60.39
  Date/Time: 11/30/2005 8:02:42 PM

 1   10 ms   12 ms   11 ms  [10.19.64.1]
 2   12 ms   13 ms   16 ms  12-215-16-65.client.mchsi.com [12.215.16.65]
 3   42 ms   32 ms   39 ms  12-215-5-74.client.mchsi.com [12.215.5.74]
 4   50 ms   43 ms   41 ms  gbr1-p53.attga.ip.att.net [12.123.197.2]
 5   45 ms   47 ms   46 ms  tbr2-p013502.attga.ip.att.net [12.122.12.33]
 6   44 ms   45 ms   44 ms  [12.122.2.89]
 7   62 ms   44 ms   46 ms  gbr2-p10.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.12.62]
 8   48 ms   52 ms   44 ms  gar1-p370.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.123.16.237]
 9   64 ms   43 ms   42 ms  mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.dal1.attens.net [12.122.255.170]
10   67 ms   55 ms   55 ms  mdf1-bi8k-1-eth-2-1.dal1.attens.net [63.241.192.194]
11   62 ms   84 ms   67 ms  [206.16.60.39]


:huh

looks like jibber jabber to me... who can translate this for me??

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« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2005, 03:34:32 AM »
I have been getting lots of warps, freezes, & issues where planes at d200 should have been dead but didn't even register a hit. Below is my ping plot.

Target Name: (resolving host name)
         IP: 206.16.60.39
  Date/Time: 12/1/2005 1:31:37 AM

 1    7 ms  [10.140.96.1]
 2    7 ms  [68.87.218.97]
 3   16 ms  [68.87.216.29]
 4   11 ms  [12.119.199.21]
 5   65 ms  [12.123.44.146]
 6   69 ms  tbr2-cl10.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.12.113]
 7   70 ms  tbr1-cl30.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.9.137]
 8   69 ms  tbr1-cl3.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.10.26]
 9   66 ms  tbr1-cl20.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.10.49]
10   64 ms  gbr2-p10.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.12.62]
11   64 ms  gar1-p370.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.123.16.237]
12   68 ms  mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.dal1.attens.net [12.122.255.170]
13   74 ms  mdf1-bi8k-2-eth-1-3.dal1.attens.net [63.241.192.214]
14   79 ms   [206.16.60.39]
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« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2005, 04:26:29 PM »
did everyone give up on us for this topic???

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« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2005, 05:06:39 PM »
well i hope not.


From the tracer (ping plotter) it seems the actual routing is fine with fairly consistent ping times over 11 hops from your computer to the HTC server.

By 11 hops that means the data that flows between your PC and HTC hits a total of 11 traffic lights if you will, and from what we're seeing  you're getting green lights all the way in. On avg it takes a ping packet to travel to HTC and get a response back in 60-80ms (ms = milliseconds 1/1000ths).

Looks like you have a fine connection at the time you ran the trace.

Must be some other stuff causing your problems.

The usual culprits are:

a) hardware sound acceleration.  run dxdiag, click on sound make sure the sound accel slider is not full right, if so drop it back a notch.

b) driver conflicts, especially if you just added new vid card or updated something.

c) spyware or some other internal PC process that is consuming cpu cycles, taking away from AH. Spybot, ad-aware are very good prgrams to catch that type of stuff. Could also be a virus.

d) If you're on a home network, perhaps you have internal routing issues or some other PC is hogging the router. this can be especially true if you share a network with some music download freak (or pr0n freak).

while this isn't much help, it should hopefully give you a nudge in the right direction toward finding a resolution.
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« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2005, 05:14:52 PM »
a note about ping vs tracert programs...

some programs merely show you ping times over a fixed amount of pings, they don't necessarily show packet loss, altho it can be inferred at times by timeouts or huge jumps in ms time at certain hops.

tracer programs show both.

warps are generally seen when certain routers (stop lights) are hosed and information is getting dropped for some reason be it simple congestion or some internal issues they may be experiencing.  there's often nothing we can do except for the first 1-3 hops (from your PC through your ISP) and sometimes the last 2 hops when ATT directly connects with the HTC servers. SKuzzy can bite heads off in the latter case.  In the former, you can *try* to nag your ISP if there's a chronic problem.  

If it's some other middleman downstream after your ISP there's very little we can do except hope they get their watermelon together.
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« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2005, 05:15:05 PM »
thanks for the help shane... my sound slider was all the way to the right.. i moved it one notch.. ill let you know if it works... as for spyware, i have a good spyware program... i cleaned all that can be cleaned and even used the FSautostart and i shut down all things not needed....

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« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2005, 05:23:06 PM »
by sound slider i mean the hardware sound acceleration, not the simple yellow horn volume control thingy.

again for clarification just in case:

start=>run=>dxdiag.exe=>sound1 (and sometimes sound 2 or 3) =>hardware sound acceleration - make sure not set full right.
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« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2005, 06:02:02 PM »
rgr.. i dropped it a notch and nothing at the resolution that im used to playing with... ill just drop the resolution and go back to atari times... :rolleyes:

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« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2005, 04:59:34 AM »
now im getting warping in the lower resolution settings... ggggggrrrrrrrrrr..... i think its time to throw in the towel....   :mad:

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« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2005, 08:10:38 AM »
Go into your services.msc and look for a service called Windows Imagining aquition (something like that).  If that is running , stop it.  I noticed on my computer that little bugger is scanning your usb/network for a scanner even if u got 1 or not.
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