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Offline Krusty

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« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2005, 12:11:33 PM »
My word! How long has this been in the works? And how long til it's done? Must be VERY time consuming.

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« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2005, 03:25:26 AM »
Frankly, the G2 skin is most impressive, but what really catches my eye is the terrain. Now, THAT is the kind of terrains I've been waiting for. Getting pretty tired of the generic MA crap personally... but wow, this terrain.. the cities.. roads.. bridges..

 
 I strongly recommend that you contact HT or Pyro and send the basic terrain files, so those objects could be included in the terrain editor as some of the alternatives the terrain makers might use.. those are just too good to see in one or two CT maps!!
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« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2005, 03:45:20 AM »
Ah, if I might add about two cents...

1cent:

  ..the panel lines seem to be very defined, but personally, I don't think its awkward or anything. It does add to the features of the plane. Some people just choose to make panel lines light and undefined, while others go deep and very defined - its just a matter of preference and which makes the plane look best. But if I might add a little suggestion to it, IF the skinner chooses to portray the panel lines deep and distinguishedly, then a secondary highlighting/shading could be applied to the appropriate surfaces to make it more natural.

 Its kinda difficult to explain since the Pic Hangar went loco and I can't post an example - but look at the second picture, the port side wing from the cockpit. The lines depicting the leading edge slats, ailerons, flaps, radiator flaps are very well portrayed. However, on a broader perspective, the separate parts of the wing still look like it is made from a single piece of wing-shaped metal - which is not the case. What I mean by this, is that the slats, flaps, ailerons, flaps and etc etc.. are all moving parts assembled together. These parts leave an amount of space between each other to allow movement, and where there is space, there is always corresponding shadows and highlights that follow along the ridges of that space.

 It is but a small bit of detail, but when added, might do a lot of good. :)



2cents:

 The underbelly is the dirtiest part of the entire plane. I may be wrong, but IIRC the conditions of the Eastern Front/Continuation War Front airfields were also often very crude. When a plane rolls on a  dirt field, the tires always kick back dust and grime, and these marks hit the underbelly of the plane, and it stays there for the whole flight. The tires also kick back small pebbles and such, and these tend to hit the underbelly of the plane, leaving their marks. Also, any kind of leaks - maybe leaky joints, lubrication oil, or whatever that's inside a plane that might leak a bit - will almost always seep through the belly of the plane, and flow back along the air-wind direction. I remember a picture of a Spitfire Karnak once posted, and man, the belly was really dirty. Perhaps someone could ask Karnak if he still has the pic, but it'd give one general idea on what a belly of the typical WW2 plane might look like. :) :)

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« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2005, 06:50:12 AM »
Can't wait to fly it Kanntori,superb.:aok

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« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2005, 12:28:38 PM »
Regarding the panel lines:

Did you use anti-aliased lines to create them, or did you blur them after the fact?

I was trying to play around with anti-aliasing panel lines after-the-fact, but blur seems to reduce their opacity rather badly as well.

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« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2005, 02:15:53 PM »
It looks good and the terrain looks great.  Nice job Kanntori

Kweassa,

I think you're thinkning of the picture Dan posted, not me.  Look at the third post in this thread:
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=165629
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« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2005, 03:15:32 PM »
Very nice 109 and the terrain is awesome .

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« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2005, 04:14:14 AM »
Nope, I distinctly remember it to be a pic of a Spit5..

 ..but anyhow, Guppy's pic in that thread is also a very good example. The concentration of dirty stuff in the central fuselage section reflects that the Spitfire has a narrow landing gear - when the plane rolls to take off, dirty water, dust, mud, slush, or anything that might kick up will end up on the fuselage in that pattern - particularly useful source since 109s use simular landing gears of simular width.

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« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2005, 10:49:47 AM »
In general, though, the 109s were better maintained. This is especially so in the early war. They had much fewer oil stain and unsightly belly smears. This does not seem to be the case on 110s, but maybe this has to do with front-line fighters getting preferential treatment. Usually the 190s and 109s weren't horribly stained or besmirched.

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« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2005, 07:28:23 PM »
awsome map and bird...  wish we could see maps like that in the MA..

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« Reply #25 on: December 27, 2005, 11:10:45 AM »
I just found this tread, linked from another. The skin is beautiful. The map is amazing.
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« Reply #26 on: December 27, 2005, 02:16:10 PM »
Great work on that skin, but the terrain... oh it's so sweet... I wait the day when all the terrains will be like that one!

Keep up the good working, you finn guys! ;)
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« Reply #27 on: December 27, 2005, 06:11:17 PM »
excellent work.. i like it.. on a personal level on the other hand.. i find the rivits in cockpit view to visable.

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« Reply #28 on: December 30, 2005, 08:23:32 PM »
Stunning piece of work!

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« Reply #29 on: December 31, 2005, 02:30:15 PM »
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Originally posted by Citabria
you rock kantorri!
great skin and map!


I second that!!!

Is there anyway to help contribute?  I know a lot of people have been wanting new maps and planes for a long time, but for just a few people to tackle the job is a tall order.

I know it takes a ton of time to put together maps, skins, sounds and so-forth for a game (I used to do it)

I'd be willing to help or at least throw in ideas, thanks.

Again, great job!