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Offline Krusty

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« Reply #30 on: December 03, 2005, 02:38:25 PM »
omg... 370 miles range on internal gas?!? LOL That'd be 5 minutes in AH fuel burn!!

EDIT: And I thought the spits/109s had short internal range

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« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2005, 11:26:35 AM »
The period of highest production was 1940 (2710 units) and so this would reflect the bulk of I-16's on strength during the early GPW.

It seems that several types were in production across 1940 both with the older  M-62 Shvetsov and the newer M-63

Type 18 (counted in the type 24 production) M-62,  4 x 7.6mm Shkas, 2 x drop tanks
Type 24 (circa 760 units) M-63, 4 x 7.6mm Shkas, 6 x RS 82, 1 x 100FAB, 2 x drop tanks
Type 27 (circa 277 units) M-62,  2 x 20mm ShVak, 2 x 7.6mm Shkas, 2 x drop tanks
Type 28 (counted in the Type 27 production) M-63,  2 x 20mm ShVak, 2 x 7.6mm Shkas, 2 x drop tanks
Type 29 (unknown production) M-63,  1 x 12mm BN, 2 x 7.6mm Shkas, 6 x RS 82, 2 x drop tanks

Speed at sea level was circa  256/260 mph
Climb to 5000m was 5.2 to 5.8 mins (depending on engine and load out)
Turning circle circa 17secs sustained.

Wing tanks extended endurance by 60 mins when flown under cruise settings.
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« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2005, 12:49:54 PM »
What about the Type 17 units?
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« Reply #33 on: December 04, 2005, 03:38:04 PM »
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What about the Type 17 units?


M25 engine 750Hp as opposed to the M62 1000hp.

Produced in 38 (27 units) and 39 (314 units) had the 2 x 20mm and 2 x 7.62mm.

However many type 17's were later upgraded to type 27's and type 28's.

So for 1941 onwards the 27/28 is more applicable for the 20mm versions.
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« Reply #34 on: December 04, 2005, 05:32:31 PM »
This is what my book says about the I-16

-Powerplant:"One 821kW (1100hp) Shvetsov M-63 9-cylinder radial engine."
-Peformance:"Max speed 304mph; range 435 miles; servic ceiling 29,530ft."
-Dimensions:"wingspan 29ft 6in; length 20ft 1in; height 8ft 5in."
-Weight:"2095kg (4619Ib) LOADED."
-Armament:"Four 7.62mm (30cal) machine guns, or two 7.62 (30cal) machine guns and two 20mm cannon; external bomb and rocket load of 500kg (1102Ib)

Many different virsions for different tasks, and say alot of action during the 30s, like Spanish Civil War, fight for the Republican against the Nationalist forces, saw action against the japs during the Sino-Japanese conflict and during this conflict 5 I-16s led by Lt N.I. Zvonarev, where armed with RS-82 air to ground rocket projectiles, fired rocket salvoes at a formation of japanese aircraft and brought down 2 of them in what was the world's first aircraft-to-aircraft rocket engagment. When it was used against the germans in WW2, 5 days into the invasion they deliberately rammed their adversaries, and many times when they were conered they would use there best skill which was manoevrabilty, and do a sharp turn and head for his opponent full throttle. During all these conflicts it was one of the first line aircraft.

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« Reply #35 on: December 04, 2005, 11:29:01 PM »
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Originally posted by Tilt
M25 engine 750Hp as opposed to the M62 1000hp.

Produced in 38 (27 units) and 39 (314 units) had the 2 x 20mm and 2 x 7.62mm.

However many type 17's were later upgraded to type 27's and type 28's.

So for 1941 onwards the 27/28 is more applicable for the 20mm versions.


Tilt, you rule.
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« Reply #36 on: December 05, 2005, 12:29:13 AM »
i heard that I-16s accelerate and turn like aerobatic planes...  thats if a good pilot is flying it :)

by the way

Bring I-26 Type 28 and Type 29 to Aces High!:aok

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« Reply #37 on: December 05, 2005, 12:34:43 AM »
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Originally posted by Klum25th
This is what my book says about the I-16

-Powerplant:"One 821kW (1100hp) Shvetsov M-63 9-cylinder radial engine."
-Peformance:"Max speed 304mph; range 435 miles; servic ceiling 29,530ft."
-Dimensions:"wingspan 29ft 6in; length 20ft 1in; height 8ft 5in."
-Weight:"2095kg (4619Ib) LOADED."
-Armament:"Four 7.62mm (30cal) machine guns, or two 7.62 (30cal) machine guns and two 20mm cannon; external bomb and rocket load of 500kg (1102Ib)

Many different virsions for different tasks, and say alot of action during the 30s, like Spanish Civil War, fight for the Republican against the Nationalist forces, saw action against the japs during the Sino-Japanese conflict and during this conflict 5 I-16s led by Lt N.I. Zvonarev, where armed with RS-82 air to ground rocket projectiles, fired rocket salvoes at a formation of japanese aircraft and brought down 2 of them in what was the world's first aircraft-to-aircraft rocket engagment. When it was used against the germans in WW2, 5 days into the invasion they deliberately rammed their adversaries, and many times when they were conered they would use there best skill which was manoevrabilty, and do a sharp turn and head for his opponent full throttle. During all these conflicts it was one of the first line aircraft.


Your book has the part "the world's first aircraft-to-aircraft rocket engagment" is not true.  
Rockets were used by against observation ballons in the first world war

OK, maybe these Le Prieur bottle rockets dont count...

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« Reply #38 on: December 05, 2005, 04:35:06 AM »
Wow, first world war rockets?? Never heard of that!

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« Reply #39 on: December 05, 2005, 06:43:35 PM »
i have. known about em since 7th grade.

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« Reply #40 on: December 06, 2005, 09:34:35 PM »
Heck, i would fly it if it were in Aces High, cool little buggy. :lol

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« Reply #41 on: December 07, 2005, 02:09:47 AM »
you guys dont understand: it is an extremely difficult plane to fly. you think the 190 does a nasty snap roll in a turn? you aint seen nothin yet. if you had lightning reflexes, you could blast anything out of the sky with one.



PS
can anyone else besides me fly a B5N indefinately at 60 mph? so far nobody has succeded in matching my achievment.

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« Reply #42 on: December 07, 2005, 02:51:48 PM »
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PS
can anyone else besides me fly a B5N indefinately at 60 mph? so far nobody has succeded in matching my achievment.


I will try it. Have never tryed actually. (With Flaps?)

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« Reply #43 on: December 08, 2005, 02:47:28 AM »
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can anyone else besides me fly a B5N indefinately at 60 mph? so far nobody has succeded in matching my achievment.


AND land it on the bow of a Destoyer?

I have.. ;)

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