Southwest 737 slides off runway at Midway

[Yeager]

Fishu you are being hypocritical.  You start a thread thats says

"southwest BOEING slides off runway at midway"

and pretend that you are somehow not being prejudiced, especially when viewed in context of your years long euro socialist anti american slant....

and you are critical of Rip???  

PS: Boeing wrote the book, airbus just ripped out the pages on style, accomodation, weight, aerodynamics....composit fiber, fuel efficiency...passenger comfort etc etc etc etc.....

[LLv34 Jarsci]

In Finland 5cm  (2") of snow per hour isnīt that bad, we just put our snowblowers on the runway between flights.. no problemo.

Probably friction coefficient wasnīt good enough--->stopping pretty much undoable without heavy use of reverse, and it eats lots of rwy.Were there crosswind?

We had one MD80 last year which used 2400m of 2500m rwy to stop. We heard about that from pilot on freq. later on. He was pretty pissed..

[beet1e]

Originally posted by SOB
I sure hope this turns into an Airbus versus Boeing "debate"!

ROFL SOB! You stole my thunder...

[Fishu]

Originally posted by Yeager
Fishu you are being hypocritical.  You start a thread thats says

"southwest BOEING slides off runway at midway"
 

...and because I mentioned Southwest, I must have something against the company.


When an accident happens in the aviation, there is few things I like to know: 1. what happened, 2. where, 3. what airline, 4. what plane.
It could been just as well an Airbus, Bombadier, Cessna...  but the layout would be the same.

[Mister Fork]

Originally posted by Holden McGroin
If this plane was an Airbus instead of a Boeing-737, it wouldn't have slid off the runway in Chicago.  It would have slid off in Toronto.

[Krusher]

A few years back a SouthWest airlines jet skidded off the end of a runway. The plane went through a fence, crossed a road, hit two cars and missed a gas station by about 50 foot.  The pictures of the accident almost looked like the jet was trying to refuel at the gas station.

I Can't remember if it was at Midway or Burbank but the accident was very similar to this one.

[midnight Target]

Midway is a scary place ..period. It seems like a postage stamp of runway in the middle of a housing tract. Weird how close the city is to the airport. I always marveled that this kind of thing didn't happen more often.

[Maverick]

Daly will close this airport too. They could build a nice big park on the land there. I wonder how long it will be before he claims Midway is a terrorist threat location.

[LLv34 Jarsci]

Originally posted by midnight Target
Midway is a scary place ..period. It seems like a postage stamp of runway in the middle of a housing tract. Weird how close the city is to the airport. I always marveled that this kind of thing didn't happen more often.

Just saw aerial pics of the field and you said it! Its an accident waiting to happen with such close proximity of housing. Imagine large aircraft , fully loaded with fuel, just loses engine or two after V1. There would be huge bonfire..

Do they get many noise complaints?  (usually they come from residents which have just moved in and they forgot to check map...)

[Chairboy]

Originally posted by Krusher
I Can't remember if it was at Midway or Burbank but the accident was very similar to this one.

Burbank.

[BlckMgk]

Just posting this visual aide.

http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=41.785972,-87.752416&spn=0.015,0.025&t=h

[RAIDER14]

Southwest should not be held responsible for the incident becuase it was a weather related incident.O'hare was closed at the time so why wasn't midway.

[Wolfala]

Interesting how the FAA mandated that every airport by 2010 needs an extra 1000 feet for overrun. I'll see what happens when Daley comes in and demo's 3 city blocks for the runway just like Meigs. Fk'n ****bag mayor needs a bullet.

[Golfer]

Southwest should not be held responsible for the incident becuase it was a weather related incident.O'hare was closed at the time so why wasn't midway.

So...I land my jet long, don't bother deploying TRs and mow down an airport fence.  In the process I plaster 27 people at a preschool fund raising bake sale and the wreckage winds up burning which causes a church to catch on fire.

I and my passengers are alive and escape the wreckage before it bursts into flames.

The catch is...it's a blizzard outside with poor braking action on the runway...or just for fun we might call it 'None'

I as PIC decide to land anyway since I'm absolved from all liability because any incident I might encounter will be weather related?

Riiiight...

I'll tell that to the families of the people I mowed down, the parishioners of the church I set ablaze and the insurance company who will gladly keep me insured on the replacement jet they'll provide my company.

[Golfer]

Originally posted by Wolfala
Interesting how the FAA mandated that every airport by 2010 needs an extra 1000 feet for overrun. I'll see what happens when Daley comes in and demo's 3 city blocks for the runway just like Meigs. Fk'n ****bag mayor needs a bullet.

Wouldn't the best idea then for Midway or somewhere of the like be to 'remeasure' the runway.  13C would then have 5500 feet usable for takeoff and landing.  Same coming the other way.  There would still be 6500 feet of pavement, but as far as what's 'allowed' and published in the AFD is reduced.  You wouldn't need to chop 1000 feet off of each end either.  No displaced thresholds or anything...well...reverse displacement.  Never heard of it but doesn't mean it couldn't work.  I need to break out the AIM and figure out how the hell you'd mark that.