Author Topic: AH2 For mac? (Read 1696 times)

AKFokerFoder+ · « **Reply #45 on:** December 11, 2005, 09:46:16 PM »

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Originally posted by Rolex
Well, Numberz... you have to remember that most of the guys posting here don't have a Mac with OSX or Tiger, so they don't know what they're talking about. But that has never stopped this crowd - they'll gladly give you their opinion about books they've never read or movies they've never seen, too.

The sheer arrogance of the Mac user crowd never ceases to amaze me. "so they don't know what they're talking about. But that has never stopped this crowd " Really, you have no problem coming in here and saying that?

Mac users see themselves as the intellectual elite, condemned forever to have to live in an unwashed world ruled by the Neanderthals who use Windows. Oh, if they could only enlighten the rest of humanity. But alas, the rest of the world can never seem reach their lofty level of intelligence.

AH2 is a Windows world, like most of the rest of the world. Go print your propaganda on a Mac world page, live in your artsy reality, while the rest of the world is really unaware of your existence.

Go away,

And take your Mac with you.

Kurt · « **Reply #46 on:** December 11, 2005, 10:52:25 PM »

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Originally posted by AKFokerFoder+
The sheer arrogance of the Mac user crowd never ceases to amaze me. "so they don't know what they're talking about. But that has never stopped this crowd " Really, you have no problem coming in here and saying that?

Mac users see themselves as the intellectual elite, condemned forever to have to live in an unwashed world ruled by the Neanderthals who use Windows. Oh, if they could only enlighten the rest of humanity. But alas, the rest of the world can never seem reach their lofty level of intelligence.

AH2 is a Windows world, like most of the rest of the world. Go print your propaganda on a Mac world page, live in your artsy reality, while the rest of the world is really unaware of your existence.

Go away,

And take your Mac with you.

CLAP CLAP CLAP

Thank you for saying what I could not.

I have a few Mac Friends and this is right spot on... As they slowly fade away from the market they toss barbs and hope to hurt someone. And the sad part is that 25 years from now some 17 people will still cling to the dead dream... Its more of a disease then an operating system... Go be chronic... Leave us alone you mac leper.

Mr No Name · « **Reply #47 on:** December 11, 2005, 11:04:37 PM »

I am in the webhosting business... currently less than 2% of the traffic on our servers come from MAC computers, Less than 1/2% run Linux... This is down from 1998 when Linux had about 3% and MAC just over 6%... With those numbers who cares about programming for such a small clique?

OOZ662 · « **Reply #48 on:** December 11, 2005, 11:46:12 PM »

Ever seen the guy who decided to make a RAID array out of USB floppy drives? Didn't figure so. He did that on a MAC.

Wich is why I use a PC.

Mustaine · « **Reply #49 on:** December 12, 2005, 09:41:37 AM »

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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Which Jobs stole from Xerox...

ack-ack

actually, xerox didn't know WTF to do with their "graphical interface" and "mouse"... so they sold it for cheap.

there's actually a TON of stuff the xerox research labs came up with back in the day, never made a penny off them though

God sometimes i really hate working here

DoKGonZo · « **Reply #50 on:** December 12, 2005, 10:15:05 AM »

All the artwork and video editing where I work now is done on Macs. And the machines crash. A lot. Everything else is done on Windows. Also a much higher percentage of the fashion & entertainment sector here in LA use Macs than Windows ... for email and web browsing mainly ... they got 'em cuz they look prettier.

I owned Macs for years and years and loved them. Sure, they crashed a lot. Sure, there was an almost cult-like manner of interacting with them (the extension managers being a shining example of boot-time magick). But they were easy to use, fast enough, and had software that the PC didn't.

When all the main-line software the Mac had was also on Windows the balance started tipping. At least for me. The notion of having to upgrade every piece of software twice (once for Win, once for Mac) started getting very expensive. And the equivalent Windows machine cost $1000 less than a Mac. If you could *get* a new Mac. Apple had this wonderful habit of announcing new machines as available months before they could actually deliver them in volume.

Then there was the years and years for OS/X to come out. The "stable" OS. That's when a lot of people I know bailed on Apple.

Apple did it to themselves. They wanted to make a computer that everyone could use and priced it out of reach of most average buyers. Then when MS and the Pentium-based PC's started gobbling up the people who couldn't afford a Mac they catered to the media elite sector (graphic artists, video editing, music).

And the Mac isn't the only example of Apple missing the target. The Newton was the first real PDA. It was an awesome little machine - the Palm still can't connect data the way the Newton could. But Apple either didn't see a future in PDA's or who knows what and bailed on the entire sector. Now 15 years later PDA's are in cell phones - millions and millions of cell phones. Good move, Apple.

In 1984 they advertised at the SuperBowl - when's the last time you saw a TV ad for a Macintosh? It's really a shame that a company which could do so much innovative work couldn't market their way out of a soggy paper bag.

In terms of AH ... it doesn't make business sense to spin up a Mac development effort. It won't reach enough people to generate the revenue to pay for the extra development staff even. Not to mention the extra support staff needed to learn all the Mac weirdness. Plus having to qualify every release on two platforms - that would redefine "two weeks" in ways that the 97% of the player base wouldn't appreciate.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #51 on:** December 12, 2005, 09:59:54 PM »

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Originally posted by Grits
Well, if you listen to MS they did invent it, but I know better.

They didnt invent multitasking either.
but they lay claim to that as well

OOZ662 · « **Reply #52 on:** December 13, 2005, 06:28:55 PM »

It's not who invents it, it's who gets off their butt fast enough to use and/or patent it.

Krusty · « **Reply #53 on:** December 13, 2005, 06:30:06 PM »

Case in point: MS now holds the patent for the iPOD. Macintosh didn't get up off their collective arse fast enough to patent it in time. Somebody got fired for that oversight, no doubt.

Rolex · « **Reply #54 on:** December 13, 2005, 10:25:45 PM »

You misunderstand, AKFokerFoder+ and some others. I'm not evangelical about any OS; that would be silly.

I think it's fair to say that none are perfect and the applications are more important.

I also think it's fair to say that I am probably still right, since most of the complaints are (understandably) pre-OSX. I gave up on Macs about 9.0, but was surprised when I saw, then bought, an OSX model. I was very clear about OSX/Tiger and also that HTC not supporting Mac was reasonable when I posted. Let's see if I'm right, okay?

What Mac model and OS do you guys have? And what is bad about your Mac OSX system?

AKFokerFoder+ · « **Reply #55 on:** December 14, 2005, 01:14:37 AM »

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Originally posted by Rolex
You misunderstand, AKFokerFoder+ and some others. I'm not evangelical about any OS; that would be silly.

I think it's fair to say that none are perfect and the applications are more important.

I also think it's fair to say that I am probably still right, since most of the complaints are (understandably) pre-OSX. I gave up on Macs about 9.0, but was surprised when I saw, then bought, an OSX model. I was very clear about OSX/Tiger and also that HTC not supporting Mac was reasonable when I posted. Let's see if I'm right, okay?

What Mac model and OS do you guys have? And what is bad about your Mac OSX system?

Apparently I did not clearly articulate my hypothesis.

A. AH2 is a Windows world.

B. Most of the rest of the world is a Windows world.

C. No matter how good Macs are or are not, A and B will not change in the foreseeable future.

D. Most of us are quite apathetic of where or how Macs are used, if they exist, or where they are going.

It may be a bit hard for those who are immersed in Mac culture to assimilate D.

If you wish to make a point, state a hypothesis, or engage in intelligent debate, we are always at your service. But Sir, when you come in here and arrogantly dismiss us as you did with such disparaging remarks, can you expect less than a favorable response? The hostility you encountered was due to your unprovoked attack.

I am an arrogant and opinionated sim pilot. But I am not above apology or reconciliation.

In simple terms for all us Windows Neanderthals, what I was trying to say was this. “It ain’t what ya’ll say (spit) , it’s how ya’ll (spit) say it. Anyone got any Redman? I seem to have run out (spit)

Vulcan · « **Reply #56 on:** December 14, 2005, 02:12:56 AM »

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Originally posted by Grits
LMAO...lets recap Uncle Bill's operating systems...

He "bought" DOS from someone that didnt legally own the rights to it
He stole Windowz 1.0 from Mac
And he drove OS/2 out of the market, the bought the rights and reissued it as Windowz NT.

Funny guy that Bill Gates.

Lets recount again...

"Windows and mice" were stolen from Xerox by everyone including Apple and Microsoft.

OS/2 was actually written by MS.

BTW, I share an office with a crapload of Mac people... technical Mac people. If you think Mac's and OS/X are superior, let me know, and I will fill this thread on the crappier side of Mac's. Windows and PC's ain't perfect, and neither are Mac's, despite what Mac owners think.

The biggest problem with the Mac is there are still fundamental problems getting the basics done (VPN clients for example, are a pig, antispyware for example is non-existance... despite the existance of mac spyware and exploits).

Grits · « **Reply #57 on:** December 14, 2005, 01:06:42 PM »

I dont like Mac's, I just think Bill Gates is teh devil.