Will the USA green up its act?

[RedDg]

Originally posted by Eagler
need to save this thread for July ... its a freezin 59 here!

Amazing, how do you cope?  long sleeved shirts, or do you have to put on a light jacket?

Been in the teens all week (before windchill).

[Krusher]

Originally posted by beet1e
But as can be seen from this list, the country with 5% of the world’s population emits 25% of the world’s greenhouse gas, so it should be obvious where the cuts would have to be made to make any impact on this GLOBAL problem. [/i].

Not that it matters, but, 5 % percent of the worlds population accounts for 33 percent of the worlds GDP also.


Kyoyo is a flawed treaty that will never fix the problem it was designed to fix. It is a silly robin hood plan that has already cost countries much more than it was advertised.

The US has signed a climate deal, just not this Kyoto turkey.
BBC Link

[Skilless]

Originally posted by Krusher
Not that it matters, but, 5 % percent of the worlds population accounts for 33 percent of the worlds GDP also.


Kyoyo is a flawed treaty that will never fix the problem it was designed to fix. It is a silly robin hood plan that has already cost countries much more than it was advertised.

The US has signed a climate deal, just not this Kyoto turkey.
BBC Link

Krusher makes an excellent point.  Let's see each countries GDP up against their indevidual contribution to greenhouse gases.  Then you'll see who the real culprits are.  (starts with an M and rymes with "exico". Starts with a CH and rymes with "Ina")

[lazs2]

Hmm... austrailia refuses to knuckle under to the socialists too?   Good for them..  Next they will take back their guns?

As for carl frigging "doom and gloom" sagen.....  Do we all recall the dire predictions he made during the first gulf war that if even half of the oil fields were set on fire for even a week...  It would put the world into a nuclear winter.... what a pompous self serving buffoon the guy was.  

lazs

[SkyRock]

Originally posted by lazs2
Hmm... austrailia refuses to knuckle under to the socialists too?   Good for them..  Next they will take back their guns?

As for carl frigging "doom and gloom" sagen.....  Do we all recall the dire predictions he made during the first gulf war that if even half of the oil fields were set on fire for even a week...  It would put the world into a nuclear winter.... what a pompous self serving buffoon the guy was.  

lazs

Carl was indeed an arse without a doubt, but you appear, by your comments, to be in the dark on exactly what the world is facing in the next 50-100 years as far as atmospheric/climate changes are concerned!  I, for one, do not believe signing treaties will help at all but I am sure the world will face a major crisis.   It doesn't take much to break the cycles of warming and cooling in the worlds waters and atmosphere.  God help many when it does happen, and it will!

[FUNKED1]

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[lasersailor184]

the world is facing in the next 50-100 years as far as atmospheric/climate changes are concerned! I, for one, do not believe signing treaties will help at all but I am sure the world will face a major crisis. It doesn't take much to break the cycles of warming and cooling in the worlds waters and atmosphere. God help many when it does happen, and it will!

You ever stop to think that maybe we aren't actually causing these weather shifts?

[lazs2]

well skyrock... I guess you are the only person who knows what will happen....  unless of course a few volcanoes blow..

lazs

[NUKE]

According to Beetle's list, the US and China are responsible for a large amount of greenhouse gases.

Is that because the other countries are more efficient, or is it because the other countries just have weak economies and produce very little, in comparison, for the world's markets?

I'd bet that the US is the most effecient of any country in greenhouse gases emmited per products and services rendered for the world.

[Debonair]

Originally posted by FUNKED1
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Lol, thats why i read these threads.
I wish it were me that thought that up

[moot]

http://www.amconmag.com/2005/2005_09_12/cover.html

[NUKE]

America is bad Moot. lol

Maybe if people worried about their own countries and tried to better themselves and their poeple, they wouldn't have to bash America so often.

Mayeb tax less and let the economies grow and learn from us.

[GRUNHERZ]

[beet1e]

Originally posted by Masherbrum
This list is BS, go to Mexico sometime.  When I was there for a month, you could smell Sulphur Emissions a 1/2 away from plants and factories.   The US already does more than most nations in terms of placing filters on factories.  Again, this list is total BS Beetle.  

Several points: I did a search for "greenhouse gases", and found that gases containing sulphur barely get a mention. The gases that are considered to be the leading greenhouse gases are water vapour, carbon dioxide, tropospheric ozone, nitrous oxide, and methane. As for sulphur, you don't have to go to Mexico to smell that in the air. Take a trip to Yellowstone Pk in Wyoming some time. You can smell the sulphur in the air from the springs.

The list I provided is not BS. It is correct as far as it goes, but did not include Mexico because as a developing nation, Mexico is exempted from having to cut its greenhouse gas emissions. The big emitters are listed on a BBC science & technology web page: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3143798.stm The EU countries are lumped together into a single value on the chart that is in there, but the USA is still shown as by far the biggest emitter of greenhouse gases - more than all the EU countries put together, though I believe the chart might have been compiled before the latest 10 member states joined the EU in 2004.

[Curval]

I question the Russia and China stats.

I belive that although the US does have very high levels of greenhouse gas output it also the HIGHEST quality control and STRICTEST in controling them...requireing scrubbers etc to filter the toxins out...whereas Russia and China have no such restrictions.  Given the boom of industry in China and in Russia I doubt that the US is higher than those countries.