Can Ram Model Be Fixed?

[Blixen]

2 planes hit 2 planes go down simple....................... ............................. .....
tired of la5`s and 7`s hoing ramming and flying away
after all thier mostly wood arent they?
how can la5 ram p38 sustain little damage and still be combat worthy?
watched 1 today ram me after hoing sustain an oil leak and killed another con in combat manuever? i call BS

[lasersailor184]

Ram model is not broken.  As a matter of fact, it's perfect the way it is right now.

[Booz]

It's not them, it's you. Just quit running into them.

[Schatzi]

How come its never understood that theres two realities with four planes. You ramming him doesnt mean he even came close to your plane....

[eilif]

The ram model works great for MA, maybe it will be more realistic for TOD. Im an advocate for both crashing too.

[Booz]

If both actually do hit, there IS damage to both planes. Think about that, and the clue from Schatzi. Are you more in favor of being victim to a ram when you were clearly 200 yds away?

[storch]

the ram model is totally bogus, both planes should die, no one should get a kill for it.

[Kazaa]

Blixen, don't ho him in the first place you dumb ass, simple..........

But I do agree, when I get clipped in dog fights or yes A ho (only when im tired of so called pilots running from me of course) I have been taken out & seen the other pilot limp home & it has been the other way around too. But it may be working just fine, I mean you need to take in account all the factors speed, angle, weight, surface area etc etc etc.

P.S If you see A car crash (safe ones of course), they will both be fcuked & don't give me all that SUV crap, unless your raming bombers then you can use that one.

[Brooke]

How do collisions work in Aces High?  If two planes collide, how does it determine damage to each aircraft, and how does it choose which plane is damaged more?

[Furball]

the one that gets the ram message should be the one to die.

[Murdr]

Originally posted by Brooke
How do collisions work in Aces High?  If two planes collide, how does it determine damage to each aircraft, and how does it choose which plane is damaged more?

If you see a ram on your front end, you take the appropriate damage.  Thats all there is to it.

Then confusion starts where people dont realize that the other guy isnt going to see the same exact ranges on his front end.  In the past players have tested it, and its very rare for BOTH to see a ram.  So one plane usually flies away because he missed colliding on his front end.

[Simaril]

This topic has been just driven into the ground. Might be worth a search to see teh terrain already covered...

In brief, opposing pilots DO NOT see the exact same thing on their computers. You are fighting a time delayed image from your enemy's computer, while YOUR moves are immediate. So, if he's made a move in the last 1/2 to 1 second, you dont know it.

Meanwhile, HIS image of your plane is 1/2 to 1 sec behind what you've "really done".

Together that means that there can be 2 seconds difference in position, whcih is an eternity when measuring yards of separation at 300 mph.

The only way to solve the time delays built into the internet, while still ahving a massively multiplayer simulation, is to have the "game" played on YOUR front end computer, with status reposrts being fed to the server.

THE ONLY COLLISIONS THAT HAPPEN ARE THE ONES YOU CAUSE BY FLYING TOO CLOSE. YOUR ENEMY CANNOT HIT YOU ON YOUR COMPUTER -- ONLY YOU CAN HIT HIM.

IRL, enemies did unexpected things, so you couldnt expect to be safe as you roar under their belly -- they might nose down. Same thing in AH: If you fly

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Booz
It's not them, it's you. Just quit running into them.

Dunno about all that. And I certainly wouldnt say its perfect.

I do know collisions are WAY up mopre often then not people hitting me and me getting all the damage

Week ago I stalled at the top of a climb after just finishing off an La7 and was pretty much motionless for 3-4 fullseconds and got rammed by a spit as he was comming in to try to cherry pick me. None of his bullets hit but he sure did.
My plane fell to the ground cleaved in two as the spit flew along his merry way.

Sorry but that kinda lag doesnt explain away everything.

If it were that bad bullets would never hiit planes

Perfect its not.
Definately not

[Schutt]

Ram seems fine with me, no problem there

[Karnak]

Originally posted by Blixen
Can Ram Model Be Fixed?

Certainly Blix, Storch.  Here is what you need to do to fix it:

Develop communications technolgy that enables instantaneous transmission of data from one computer to multiple other computers regardless of the distance between the computers.  The primary problem you will need to overcome is how to transmit data at speeds multiple times that of light speed. Currently data is transmitted through the internet at speeds ranging from .6c to .8c and you will need speeds of at least 10.0c.  You will also need to improve basic computer technology to reduce, or eliminate, the delay in data transmission caused by computer's need to determine the next destination.

Should you succeed at this you have all likelyhood of the following things awaiting you: Riches beyond your wildest dreams, the Nobel Prize for physics and, oddly, real time collisions in AH.