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Offline RAIDER14

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« on: December 11, 2005, 05:20:22 PM »
why don't any airlines in the U.S. have russian planes like Tupolevs or Anotovs?

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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2005, 05:37:24 PM »
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA


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« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2005, 05:41:31 PM »
Not the same thing, but plenty of american pilots use Sukhois and Yakolevs as their aerobatic mount of choice.

The Sukhoi 26 (along with the 29 and the 31) are regarded as the best aerobatic planes in the world.

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« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2005, 06:11:34 PM »
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why don't any airlines in the U.S. have russian planes like Tupolevs or Anotovs?

Well, there was this thing called "The Cold War" wherein the US and Western Powers were arayed against the Soviets and the East Bloc.  During this time we each designed and built our own aircraft for both civilian and military purposes.  Due to flaws in the Soviet economic and social systems the air liners they built are much more prone to catastrophic failures than those built in the USA or EU.  These problems continue to dog the modern Russian aviation industry.

So, the reason we don't use Russian air liners is because they are crap compared to Boeing or Air Bus and we are rich enough to be able to afford the good stuff.
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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2005, 06:43:28 PM »
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So, the reason we don't use Russian air liners is because they are crap compared to Boeing or Air Bus and we are rich enough to be able to afford the good stuff.

AEROFLOT is rich enough to use Boeing and AirBus as well.Thats what they use for international flights.
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Due to flaws in the Soviet economic and social systems the air liners they built are much more prone to catastrophic failures than those built in the USA or EU


Not true,Tupolev and Antonov do not meet American emission standarts,thats all.
BTW Karnak Boeing drops from the sky more often then Tupolev.

Russian planes are crap:).....thats  first time i hear that

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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2005, 06:52:38 PM »
Because Antonov planes are too damn big.:p   Seriously, I think it's because some corporate fat cats are still wary of the Russians, that the planes will be sabotaged or something.  They buy Boeing because it's like buying an American made car, stimulates the U.S. economy (supposedly).
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« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2005, 07:01:18 PM »
It would be cool to see a FedEx or UPS or DHL Antonov 225 though

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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2005, 09:58:00 PM »
a local FBO has a company flying cargo to the caribbean which utilizes AN12s and AN26s.

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« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2005, 11:25:28 PM »
A simpler explanation might be in order. ANT and TU probally does not have a parts / repair system distribution setup like they do in Europe and Asia established in the west.

You can have the planes in the U.S. But if you can't fix them at many places, well...stuff doesn't work out for the best.

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« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2005, 11:55:41 PM »
hey raider, heres an eye opener for you.....go look around your house, apartment....whatever... and come back here and report on how many items were made in either the soviet union or russia.  Apart from vodka.

Im betting the number is zero or close to it.
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« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2005, 11:59:13 PM »
Does a Cold War musuem count cuase there is lots of Soviet made stuff there:D

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« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2005, 12:33:30 AM »
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AEROFLOT is rich enough to use Boeing and AirBus as well.Thats what they use for international flights.


Not true,Tupolev and Antonov do not meet American emission standarts,thats all.
BTW Karnak Boeing drops from the sky more often then Tupolev.

Russian planes are crap:).....thats  first time i hear that


Airplanes have emission standards?

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« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2005, 12:44:32 AM »
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Airplanes have emission standards?


lol yeah:p

If you lived in the 60s and 70s you'll notice 707s and DC-9 taking off at the airport belches out black smoke. Yuck!

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« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2005, 12:44:37 AM »
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Airplanes have emission standards?


I dunno about emission standards, but certainly noise standards. 707's got tanked by everyone except the military because they couldn't be hushed.


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« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2005, 12:50:01 AM »
Old 135s would break windows all the time in the residential neighborhoods around MKE.  Always glad I was a few miles north of the glide path. :)
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