No clemency for tookie

[eagl]

CNN is reporting no clemency for Tookie.

I'm actually a bit suprised.  I'd have given 60/40 odds that Schwartzewhatever...   er Ahnold, being in a bit of a political slump, would figure out a way to grant clemency and come out looking like a popular hero.  He could have made a gazillion political points...  But he didn't.  He apparently took the time to weigh the case on it's merits and chose to go with the court's decision.

I'm simultaneously happy that he had the moral courage to make what is probably going to be an extremely controversial decision, and bummed out that his administration is going to suffer further crippling problems for no reason other than he acted like a governor.  Had he bent just one bit towards the other way and gone for the popular points, I think he'd have been a winner in the political arena.  He could have called a huge press conference, and spent 10 minutes scolding the radicals who have been trying to blackmail him into making the decision one way or another.  He could have claimed the moral high ground and left them in suspense, hanging on his words, wondering if Tookie would live or die.  And at the climax of suspense, he'd grant someone a life.

He'd have been a hero.

But he went the other way, spent the weekend thinking about it, and chose to support the decision of the courts.  His comment on the decision appears to be along the lines of "the details of the case do not warrant clemency", pretty dry stuff for a struggling politician.

[GtoRA2]

I had a feeling it would go this way.

The guy needs to fry.

This will prolly help him with the conservitives come election time.


I am just glad it won't be a news story much longer.

[BigGun]

i don't think going the other way would have been popular. They were reporting today that 70% of Californians favor the death penalty. This case clearly fits the bill.

[Maverick]

Atta boy Arnold.

AMF tookie.

[Gh0stFT]

i know its the wrong thread, but why kill him after 25 years in prison ?
I doubt the Deterrence and the Death Penalty works this way,...
you payed him the daily meat for 25 years, others who didnt done
anything bad to someone died because of hunger in the same country.
For me this is just a ****** TV Show.

[lasersailor184]

Arnold was only elected as a knee jerk reaction to Davis.  Davis was a foaming at the mouth commie, and people wanted to distance themselves from this just because they were still realing the effects of communism in California.

However note that Arnold is NOT a republican.  Arnold is a straight moderate.  Just compared to all the pinkos in California he damn near looks libertarian.



There was nothing in the world that would have won Arnold re-election aside from swearing himself into the Socialist party.  Most of the people are too far gone in California.

The people are quickly shifting to the left again.  The only way Arnold would have stayed popular was by going with the shift.

[midnight Target]

Originally posted by eagl
CNN is reporting no clemency for Tookie.

  He could have made a gazillion political points...  .

Hardly...

The "Save Tookie" contingent in California is a small minority. He did the best thing for himself politically. He may have done it for the right reasons morally, but it was still in his best interest to fry the guy.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by midnight Target
Hardly...

The "Save Tookie" contingent in California is a small minority. He did the best thing for himself politically. He may have done it for the right reasons morally, but it was still in his best interest to fry the guy.

I don't think you can downplay the opposition as such.  Especially considering alot of them are celebrities:

Snoop Dogg, Bianca Jagger, Jesse Jackson, Margaret Cho, Mike Farrell, Jason Alexander, Laurence Fishburne, Danny Glover, Anjelica Huston, Bonnie Raitt, Tim Robbins, Susan Sarandon, and Noah Wyle.

There there's that whole Nobel Peace Prize nomination.  

But this just goes to show how out of touch some of the Hollywood left is because I don't think the majority of Californians oppose his execution.

[midnight Target]

That was a lot of words just to say you agree with me....

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by midnight Target
That was a lot of words just to say you agree with me....

Yea...and?

[Habu]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
I don't think you can downplay the opposition as such.  Especially considering alot of them are celebrities:

Snoop Dogg, Bianca Jagger, Jesse Jackson, Margaret Cho, Mike Farrell, Jason Alexander, Laurence Fishburne, Danny Glover, Anjelica Huston, Bonnie Raitt, Tim Robbins, Susan Sarandon, and Noah Wyle.

You know when you start to mention people like Bianca Jagger Mike Farrell Jason Alexander et al I would hardly be inclined to use the word celebrity.

Has beens. Washed up actors. D-list nobodys. But not celebrities.

[ROC]

Nobel Peace Nomination?

You do realize that I can nominate You, and you would then have the label of a Nobel Peace Nominee don't you?

It really is that simple.  Try it.  Who gives a flying fudge about getting nominated, it means Nothing.  Win the Nobel Peace Prize and let's talk about Tookie's gift to humanity.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by Habu
You know when you start to mention people like Bianca Jagger Mike Farrell Jason Alexander et al I would hardly be inclined to use the word celebrity.

Has beens. Washed up actors. D-list nobodys. But not celebrities.

But alas the list ins't just exlusive to those

Originally posted by ROC
Nobel Peace Nomination?

You do realize that I can nominate You, and you would then have the label of a Nobel Peace Nominee don't you?

It really is that simple. Try it. Who gives a flying fudge about getting nominated, it means Nothing. Win the Nobel Peace Prize and let's talk about Tookie's gift to humanity.

Do you think I'm supporting Tookie?  If so I'm not, I'm pointing out the nutbags that do.

[Ripsnort]

^^^
Tookies and cream. Good eating! Baked, not fried!

[RAIDER14]

will there be riots all over the country when he is pronounced dead