Author Topic: Damage? Where?  (Read 1845 times)

Offline Naytch

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« Reply #45 on: December 13, 2005, 05:47:37 AM »
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3x20mm hits concentrated in the wingroot (400rds means a 3 cannons La-7, right?) not enuff to damage seriously a WW2 fighter plane? If you live in the "Alice In The Wonderland" arena described by Ramzey, where everything is possible, then yes. If you'd like to make the MA a thing even remotely realated to WW2 air fighting then its a big HMMMMMM.


Look at the screenshots one more time, you call those concentrated? Skatsr was moving perpendicular to Mugzee. One cannon hit the foremost part of the wing (where the guns are poking out), then the middle, then the back part where the flaps are. The result will be a wing with three big holes in it. Now if mugzee could have gotten his wings parallel to sr and got a bit of a track shot on it, the rounds would have been more concentrated and the wing would have most probably been blown to bits.

Lets say you had an m60. Someone off to the side threw a 2x4 in your line of fire at high speed. You fired a burst when it crossed your gunsights WITHOUT moving the gun to the side at all. When you look what happened to the 2x4, you should notice that the holes will be peppered from the one end to the other, not enough to rip the thing in half, was it?

It would only have killed the pony if he raked it from the prop to tail, but he wasn't so fortunate. Still, Sr's losing of right gear speaks bad of the damage model, should be fixed...

Offline Mugzeee

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« Reply #46 on: December 13, 2005, 06:40:34 AM »
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its official, this thread is a pice of S***

How long are you here ?  3 years and you whine like 13 years old n00b
your damage was lost in lag/warp/bad ping, choose whatever you like

everythiing you see on your screen is not 100% same as in other person PC

but since 2003 you should learn that

It is official..you are a trouble maker. There is no excessive whining on my part. Just a posting of pictures and explaination as to what the pictures are representitive of. So please dont be so imflamatory in your remarks.
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Offline mechanic

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« Reply #47 on: December 13, 2005, 06:44:25 AM »
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Originally posted by gatt
3x20mm hits concentrated in the wingroot (400rds means a 3 cannons La-7, right?) not enuff to damage seriously a WW2 fighter plane? If you live in the "Alice In The Wonderland" arena described by Ramzey, where everything is possible, then yes. If you'd like to make the MA a thing even remotely realated to WW2 air fighting then its a big HMMMMMM.



i think the only big HMMMM come when people think there should be a set ammount of pings that brings a wing off every time.



i've been hit by no more than 4 rounds of hispanio cannon and lost wings, tails, engine oil, whatever.  

I've also been hit by well over 20 cannon rounds and scraped out of it with nothing more than 20 holes in my plane.


this is how the game is, how real life is, and how it should remain.
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Offline Slash27

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« Reply #48 on: December 13, 2005, 06:55:37 AM »
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i think the only big HMMMM come when people think there should be a set ammount of pings that brings a wing off every time.



i've been hit by no more than 4 rounds of hispanio cannon and lost wings, tails, engine oil, whatever.  

I've also been hit by well over 20 cannon rounds and scraped out of it with nothing more than 20 holes in my plane.


this is how the game is, how real life is, and how it should remain.



Stuff happens. 90% of the time the Ponys wing will come off in the situation, MuGzee got the short end of the stick that round.



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There is no excessive whining on my part.



Yeah, I dont get where you became a whineass in this. How dare you post something for discussion!!!:D

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« Reply #49 on: December 13, 2005, 07:00:32 AM »
don't worry, there is always 1 who doesnt bother reading past the title and spouts off anti-whine rubbish before they think. :aok
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Offline gatt

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« Reply #50 on: December 13, 2005, 07:11:11 AM »
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i think the only big HMMMM come when people think there should be a set ammount of pings that brings a wing off every time.


I simply said that 3x20mm cannon hits on a wing should produce more damage. The fact that the *gear* was damaged is the demonstration of the weird DM. Like those horizontal stabs damaged as a result of HO's. I'm sure you know.  

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This is how the game is, how real life is, and how it should remain


You are mixing: a) our fantasy world with b) your opinion and ... c) your opinion again.
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« Reply #51 on: December 13, 2005, 07:17:58 AM »
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i think the only big HMMMM come when people think there should be a set ammount of pings that brings a wing off every time.



i've been hit by no more than 4 rounds of hispanio cannon and lost wings, tails, engine oil, whatever.



wow 4 rounds your lucky Iv been killed many many times with one ping kills by stupid spit 20mms. Yet I get a Chog and pop a pony 8-9 times and finally he dies on the last ping.
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« Reply #52 on: December 13, 2005, 11:16:19 AM »
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does anyone know if speed stress and G stress makes a difference to damage taken?

It should!

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« Reply #53 on: December 13, 2005, 02:56:14 PM »
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I understand the problem with the damage and all that...thats not my question...

My question is, why would someone post screenies of themselves actually flying the L-gay7?:D


Hehe, yep, that's the REALLY important question.
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Offline Mugzeee

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« Reply #54 on: December 13, 2005, 04:34:54 PM »
Yes i was a frustrating experience. One of many. As i stated before. It was a fun fight.
The post was as much about a Question as it was a complaint.
I just assumed that the Hit explosions would have been plenty to do the job.
No big deal. I just took the time to post pics this time. Im glad i did...it re-enforced what i always have known about online gaming. Expect the un-expected. I have told several disgruntled AH pilots in the past "The fun is the fight, not the end result" But i was serious when i said in my original post "If i ever quit AH...this would be the type of reason why." not that i think AH is the only online game that this happens in...but rather it may become more than i care to tolerate someday. Thanks for all the input. It helps sometime to get other views to get back on even keel.
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« Reply #55 on: December 13, 2005, 04:36:11 PM »
See the last 4 posts in this thread.

Chances are you didn't actually hit him those 2 or 3 times that you can see on the screenshots.
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« Reply #56 on: December 13, 2005, 05:10:55 PM »
Wil...thanks. This is very helpful. :)