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Offline beet1e

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Re: The Holocaust never happened..
« Reply #30 on: December 15, 2005, 06:29:57 PM »
Sounds like the sort of statement that Jackal1 would come out with.

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« Reply #31 on: December 15, 2005, 06:53:40 PM »
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well i agree, but dont "extract" fact, whitch is quite common even in our language... that myth is based uppon true story

I will show you quite diferent point of view(local).
Iran has been a little bit critic to EU's secularity. But we take it as our best advantige, so we dont care what other think. Specialy when they are theocrats. In past 6 months several people has been put on trail for some "comments" about holocaust. This matter got quite a huge attention overhere and one of EU's ministers has been striped off his immuniti. Lets say that at least 3 "high profile" people went for trail because of they comments about holocaust in past 6 months. Since its quite ok to walk with transparent saying "God is impotent half-lesbian half-hermafrodit" and nobody give a chit, you can not basicaly say a word whitch could strugle with theme "holocaust".
It doesnt matter if his comments were for Europian or whoever,
but im quite sure, that he is right regarding EU current situation.  Thus his comment is attack on EU's freedom of speech IMO.
[did you get my answer on your question?]
thx for staying on theme

OK I think i'm tracking here.  Basically he's bashing the EU because its OK in the EU to say "screw god" but it's not ok to say "the holocaust never happened" so that's to say that the holocaust is more important than god.  

I guess that makes sense if that's the context of the speech.  Thanks for the answer.

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« Reply #32 on: December 16, 2005, 09:48:00 AM »
Seagoon, did you write all that text yourself?

We are talking about nazis now.

Nazis killed 20 million Soviet civilians.

You use numbers of victims of "Evil Soviet Regime" (tm) that are not based on any facts and are a nazi propaganda invention. Numbers of "repressed" people are availible. If your numbers are true and  "Evil Soviet Regime" (tm) killed over 20 million people - then I wonder how anyone still lives here.

So, back to the subject: why should Jews be special and better then, for example, Belorussians, who lost one third of their population?

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« Reply #33 on: December 16, 2005, 09:50:21 AM »
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Nazis killed 20 million Soviet civilians.

 


Lies. Propoganda..

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« Reply #34 on: December 16, 2005, 10:12:47 AM »
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Lies. Propoganda..


There were millions of Jews among them, do you deny Holocaust!? Are you an antisemite?

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« Reply #35 on: December 16, 2005, 10:28:58 AM »
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Seagoon, did you write all that text yourself?

We are talking about nazis now.

Nazis killed 20 million Soviet civilians.

You use numbers of victims of "Evil Soviet Regime" (tm) that are not based on any facts and are a nazi propaganda invention. Numbers of "repressed" people are availible. If your numbers are true and  "Evil Soviet Regime" (tm) killed over 20 million people - then I wonder how anyone still lives here.

So, back to the subject: why should Jews be special and better then, for example, Belorussians, who lost one third of their population?


Well... lets review few local facts.
We have 1 movie about holocouast every week on TV.
We have 1 movie about russian "causalities"[will explain later] in 5 years.

Everybody know, that jews were masacred, but much less people know, that 50% of so called Jews were not Jews. Nobody deny this fact. Yet we have still plenty of "jewish genocide" stuff. While the places where "Jews" has been mascred become almost untouchable holy places. Those places whitch were used for eradicating "non jews" i.e. gypsies, were abandoned. 2 years ago, they discovered, that concentration camp for gypsies, whitch has been located in czech were operated as prison by communist, after the war and later abandoned.  Today we have farm full of pigs and cows on that place.
First arguments, why we should not care, about this particular place were. "hey genocide didnt take place overthere".. in the meaning, that genocide in europe is systematical kill of Jews. Later on we had 2 years long strugle, whitch show, that there is huge diference between "genocide agains Jews" and "camp for killing non Jews people". Keep in mind, that both camps were operated by same authority in the same time period and for the same purpose.

Jewish lound outcry and excusing in the name of "genocide agains Jews" is becomeing quite boring and many people consider sutch crying as unnessesery.
But since it is crime to say something baaad about "genocide"(annihilating of jews in Europe) many people who try to attack this attitude run into various problems.

I belive, that about 50% of local, well educated population are not fun of political Zionism(boooo can use this word, whitch is very popular in Iranian bashing ? :D )
And it seems to me, that number of people who are pissed of by "jewish genocide' in todays politic is growing.

lasersailor184.. tell me.. how strong is democratic movement in Iran? Im quite confident, that you must have good overview about Iranian people... so come on... tell us.
It will be very interesting for us to hear about "their" troughs.
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« Reply #36 on: December 16, 2005, 10:31:40 AM »
INcredible...

:huh

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« Reply #37 on: December 16, 2005, 10:37:13 AM »
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INcredible...

:huh

Mac


hehe i were thinking the same when i spoke to engeneer of energy, whos working in excelent international company..

wish serious face he insisted, that the best solution for ME is to Nuke it.
He insist, that most of poeple will not care and oil wont be affected by radioactiviry.
... 30 years old Ph.D. guy.... belive that it is the only one real solution to ME problems.


get yourself a passport and check the world.

You might find it even more incredible. In many diferent directions.

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« Reply #38 on: December 16, 2005, 10:40:37 AM »
Been there, done that.

 Lived in Asia, Europe and Central America.

 Mac

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« Reply #39 on: December 16, 2005, 10:50:51 AM »
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Originally posted by Boroda
In Russian it is translated as "��������� ������� ��� � �������� ��������� ������ � ��������� ���� ��� ���� ����".

Twisted translation, at least one of two.

Russian translation is that holocaust is mythologised and put above god etc. But you can read it in another way.

Nothing about denying the very fact of holocaust. It doesn't stop our "liberal" press from screaming in fury.

Can anyone tell me why Jews are better then 20 million Soviet civilians slaughtered by nazis? I am against making any nation "more equal".

Moderators, please delete this post without doubt if you find it inappropriate.


A few of us thought it long before you threw it on the table but we were not educated on these facts you put out there in our propoganda schools, we had to read it and do the math on our own to figure it out.. But still its seems not polite to bring up that fact over here....It would be considered radical thinking in mainstreamer terms...
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« Reply #40 on: December 16, 2005, 11:02:56 AM »
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Been there, done that.

 Lived in Asia, Europe and Central America.

 Mac


hey cool.

may i ask whats your occupation then ? (umm i mean if you were working abroad )
Where have you go ?

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« Reply #41 on: December 16, 2005, 11:23:38 AM »
Seagoon, what is the source for your claim that approx 100 - 300 million muslims are directly engaged in jihad?

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« Reply #42 on: December 16, 2005, 12:00:00 PM »
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A few of us thought it long before you threw it on the table but we were not educated on these facts you put out there in our propoganda schools, we had to read it and do the math on our own to figure it out.. But still its seems not polite to bring up that fact over here....It would be considered radical thinking in mainstreamer terms...
OP.
TJ


Does it mean that you agree with Ahmadinejad and admit that the whole hysteria began because his words were [intentionally] distorted in translation? If not - then, I suppose, it's because in some issues "politeness" is more important for you then truth and common sence?

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« Reply #43 on: December 16, 2005, 12:01:16 PM »
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Seagoon, what is the source for your claim that approx 100 - 300 million muslims are directly engaged in jihad?


Probably from the same place as that 250000 Poles killed by "Evil Soviet Regime" (tm).

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« Reply #44 on: December 16, 2005, 12:16:41 PM »
"We have 1 movie about holocouast every week on TV.
We have 1 movie about russian "causalities"[will explain later] in 5 years."

-Well, that proves we don't care I guess.

"Everybody know, that jews were masacred, but much less people know, that 50% of so called Jews were not Jews."

-You aren't telling us anything we don't already know, its common knowledge that the Death Camps killed upwards of 10 million people, of which approx 6 million were of Jewish origin.

"Yet we have still plenty of "jewish genocide" stuff."

-Golly wiz, our apologies. Didn't mean to dwell on it.

"While the places where "Jews" has been mascred become almost untouchable holy places."

-Maybe they could open a McDonalds at Auschwitz?

"Jewish lound outcry and excusing in the name of "genocide agains Jews" is becomeing quite boring and many people consider sutch crying as unnessesery."

-Damn whiners. When will they learn?

"But since it is crime to say something baaad about "genocide"(annihilating of jews in Europe) many people who try to attack this attitude run into various problems."

-Oh, hey, its a free forum, please...tell us something "good" about it.

"And it seems to me, that number of people who are pissed of by "jewish genocide' in todays politic is growing."

-Yup, some are posting here.

"lasersailor184.. tell me.. how strong is democratic movement in Iran?"

-Stronger than it is with Russias ex pat Stalinists it would seem.
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