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« Reply #60 on: December 18, 2005, 02:54:52 AM »
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Boroda is our own museum exhibit.
 


He's frigging hilarious; kinda like a time-jump to seventies :D

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« Reply #61 on: December 18, 2005, 04:13:46 AM »
Thanks Seagoon. I asked for a source for your claim that there are hundreds of millions of muslims directly invloved in jihad. Having read and reread your post I'm pretty sure you are guessing and you can't actually provide one.

The figure could quite as easily be a few thousand. I'm not going to hazzard a guess, but I will point out that at the height of the fight against the USSR in Afghanistan, the muslim foreign legions could only be counted in the thousands or at best tens of thousands. This was when they were operating with the full support of the Saudi, US and Pakistani governments and with a certain amount of tacit support from their domestic governments. You are now arguing that fifteen years later these numbers have increased exponentially in the face of the removal of much of the official support that the jihadis once enjoyed and in the face of the loss off all the infrastructure these groups once enjoyed in Afghanistan and Sudan, and also having lost massive amounts of funding in the crackdown that followed 9/11.

I don't buy it. It took what, 20 - 30 men to plan and carry out the 9/11 attacks? Even with the understandable increase in terrorist activity since the invasion of Iraq, the level of jihadi activity simply does not correspond to the increased availability of recruits and logistical and financial support that would exist if you were correct in your estimates.

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« Reply #62 on: December 18, 2005, 05:28:43 AM »
*quietly scratches Russia off places to visit before I die*

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« Reply #63 on: December 18, 2005, 06:24:53 AM »
you don't visit russia. russia visits you.
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« Reply #64 on: December 18, 2005, 09:18:21 AM »
So, when some 15.000 non-existent Ploes were dug up near Smolensk, it was the following:
1. Nonsense.
2. Nevermind, there are no poles.
3. Nazi propoganda.

But Putin somehow had another opinion and gave an official excuse from Russia to Poland.......
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #65 on: December 18, 2005, 09:30:33 AM »
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you'd think that if the big guy could get the ball rolling in just six days he coulda a put in another day or two workin the bugs out.


I'm afraid that ones on us Hang:)

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« Reply #66 on: December 18, 2005, 01:01:08 PM »
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So, when some 15.000 non-existent Ploes were dug up near Smolensk, it was the following:
1. Nonsense.
2. Nevermind, there are no poles.
3. Nazi propoganda.

But Putin somehow had another opinion and gave an official excuse from Russia to Poland.......


Putin refused to give official excuses for Katyn, that's why Poland was so crazy. In fact General Procecutors's report was an attempt to save face of modern Polish government, who's political agenda is based on nazi inventions.

15000 Poles near Smolensk? Nazis "found" 4500. You use numbers that don't even correspond with original nazi "source"...

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« Reply #67 on: December 18, 2005, 01:10:22 PM »
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Soo... Polish didn't exist as a nationality, but as an ethnicity?

Wow I did not know that Polish was a race, is german and russian ethnicities also ?

"Yes we invaded that country, but that country didn't exist. So it's all good."
:lol


Well, in Russian ethnic = belonging to a nationality. I don't dig into English deep enough to check the usage of Greek words.

"Etnicheskie polyaki" = ethnic Poles, people who belong to Polish nation. What I meant is that Poland ceased to exist as a souverign country after it's government ran away. It ceased to exist both de jure and de facto. Polish nation still exists, thanks to asian hordes of Jewish bolsheviks.

And again, USSR took back the lands populated with ethnic Ukrainians and Belorussians, see Curzon's line. A border between USSR and Poland was generally drawn in 1945 according to this line.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curzon_line

I love Wikipedia. Nothing about Polish agression in 1920! See history rewritten...

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« Reply #68 on: December 18, 2005, 02:18:28 PM »
Holy crap is this guy for real?????? The Polish Government ran away so there was no Poland.

So what was it??? The land that the Polish government controled before they ran away. What was it?

After the Polish government ran away what was it?

The people that lived there when the govenment was there were Polish.
What were they after the govenment left??

ANSWER......IT WAS POLAND AND THEY WERE POLISH!!!!!

The USSR invaded and killed a whole bunch of them.

Historical fact?? All the history books say it is.

But Borda I'll take your word for it because it's all just Nazi propaganda.....NOT!!!!

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« Reply #69 on: December 18, 2005, 05:50:24 PM »
Well some recent news on Katyn.

What katyn?

http://www.mosnews.com/news/2005/03/11/katynfiles.shtml
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« Reply #70 on: December 18, 2005, 08:23:38 PM »
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Originally posted by lada

Many people didnt learn lesson.
Because IMO we are not the one who shall decide and act, based on our right troughs, about life of others who we belive to missed something. (lol damm bloody english does it make sense ?)
In other words. We should not judge who did learn the lesson and who didnt. Otherwise we are starting just another demagogy.
What do you think ?


Their actions show whether or not they learned the lesson, Lada.  Those who carried out ethnic cleansing in the Balkans, for example, are obviously an example.

And I think we MUST judge whether or not the lesson has been learned.  Otherwise, we are caught (again) REACTING to a crime against humanity, rather than PREVENTING a crime against humanity.  We have learned that when we react, innocents die.  I would suggest that a little proactivity would save some of those innocents.

It's really simple.  If Chamberlain had stood up to Hitler in 1938, Hitler (by his own admission) would not have invaded Poland in 1939.  Maybe he would have, later, but WW2 started in 1939 because Western leaders appeased a monster.  I think we should learn something from that.

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« Reply #71 on: December 19, 2005, 09:14:10 AM »
There was no Poland?  The government ran away, so it's ours by default?

Wow.  

Just....Wow.

:O

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« Reply #72 on: December 19, 2005, 10:28:04 AM »
Russia should remind us all to not fear our neighbors and friends with guns....  Fear the government with guns.

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« Reply #73 on: December 19, 2005, 11:45:44 AM »
Hello Boroda,

Just wondering - would it matter if I were to publish the statements by Gorbachev and his successors in which they admitted to various attrocities (including Katyn) and the deaths during the Stalin era, or made reference to statistics gleaned from the Kremlin archives since they were partially opened in the '90s?  

Would it be correct to also assume that you would argue with the 1,606,748 documented deaths in the Gulag system (there are far more still hidden in the unreleased info). Did Kolyma even exist? And were Shalamov and Sozhenitsyn merely pawns of the West?

Also, the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact was signed in August 23, 1939. It included a secret protocol for the division of Poland and laid the groundwork for the Soviet Invasion of September 17, 1939 as well as the occupation of the Baltics. This was obviously before the Polish President was forced to flee to Romania on September 18th and prior to the USSR's invasion of Poland (or was the orderly and equitable partitioning of Poland a spontaneous act of German-Russian goodwill?) To their credit the Poles had an exile government up and operating in Paris by the 30th of September.

Ah well, an interesting online exhibit of things that you feel never happened:

Gulags

Just a personal observation. The only thing worse than actually being murdered by a despotic regime is becoming a "non-person" utterly erased from the history books. One of the reasons why what the USSR perpetrated was in some ways worse than the attrocities of the Germans, is that at least the deaths of German victims have been documented. While many of the names were lost, there has been a concerted attempt to recover that information, while in the former USSR the vast majority of the executed remain "ghosts", paved over or erased from history. They "never existed" their images even removed from doctored photographs. Murder is evil, but being deleted, having ones very existence voided, is far worse.

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« Reply #74 on: December 19, 2005, 01:19:50 PM »
Mac is army guy..GI JOE

You know they modeled him after Mac?