Author Topic: Russian rock climbing - if only kids played like this still  (Read 542 times)

Offline Wolfala

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« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2005, 08:34:05 PM »
They do that in our inner cities, but only with a TV slung under their arm.

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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2005, 08:38:11 PM »
I see Jackie Chan has gotten around Russia..

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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2005, 08:40:17 PM »
I believe they said "white man cant jump",did they mean "white American"?
I'm just kidding,lol

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« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2005, 08:45:28 PM »
How about that French rap music?

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« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2005, 09:03:34 PM »
you don't want to know, Grunherz..
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« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2005, 09:13:35 PM »
Do tell us Moot, take pride in your french experiences!  :)

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« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2005, 09:49:56 PM »
somebody get that kid a Spiderman costume

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« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2005, 10:25:31 PM »
Pride?
Grunherz, let's just say Vanilla Ice pales in comparison :lol
Some of the stuff is good, but it's a bit like Drum-n-bass or Hardcore, a few minutes and you'll have had enough..
Either it's real mellow and sounds like cheap plastic imitations of RnB, or very hardcore and stale.  A snooze either way, for most people.

I guess it's a product of the environment, and besides a few who really tried to transcend the usual '(I'm) living in this dump and the world/society/humanity sucks'.

French rap has the same engrish false notes as every other cultural fad that strikes a chord in a culture foreign from its own, where certain parts are toned down and others up.  Comparatively to the original, it's disproportionate and becomes something of its own.  Sometimes it works (if that even means anything more than comercial success), sometimes it doesn't.
It's not to discredit all of it, because there are some very good continuations of innovations of the american stuff it grew from, but overall the quality is lesser, either from the cheaper production, or lack of self-esteem/culture - to call em like I see em :D

MC Solaar was one of the more mellow MCs, and really had talent, literaly.  He had good-natured, authentic charisma and plenty of creativity.  It translated very well in his stuff, and the french language was a fertile medium for it, but hip-hop culture mostly grew away from this and soon enough he (since his stuff wasn't just ego-trip abstractions) was too 'pop' for most.
In my opinion he really did transcend 'hiphop', but most people think he's just a wimp. Nice guys finish last.

I could go on, because there's a lot more to it, e.g. the corelations to the society and culture that feeds on it and that it feeds on (particularily the political character which is pretty common), but that's pretty boring, as you could probably do the math yourself once you recognize it for the fasion/social phenomenon it is.
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_rap

I haven't kept in touch with the latest developments of the 'scene', but from the bits I do hear, it hasn't changed much.
Art is always art, and seeing enough from a particular, average artist, you get a sense for the stuff, and start being able to see it exactly for what the artist meant it to be.  It decides how soon you outgrow what the artist has to offer, in the case of french hiphop, it's relatively quick.. the width and breadth is pretty limited, and it's not really evolving that much.
A broken record, basicaly.

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« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2005, 11:37:26 PM »
I remember doing stuff like that on shrooms.....
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« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2005, 02:51:57 AM »
Boroda on steroïds!
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« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2005, 04:23:22 AM »
Moot shadap... Iam is still  teh sh***t!
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« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2005, 04:34:46 AM »
Well you will be when you finally fix the picture hanger anyway.....


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« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2005, 04:39:14 AM »
OT:

PH is still down for a couple of reasons:

1- I need to pull my finger out of my arse.
2- All the files are there, most of the database is up except... the one holding the files. The data is too large to pass through a web based SQL admin (I get a timeout). And I cannot use an SQL client from the office (port 80...)
3- I just moved (again) and will have to wait untill end of January to get a phoneline/dsl at home.

As it is now, I could open it, but the record to the previous hosted files will not show up. (you can however link to files you posted prior to the shutdown)

Hopefully, I'll be able to do the sql client thing when I go to my parents for Xmass.

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« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2005, 05:09:22 AM »
Yeah, diamonds in the rough.
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