Author Topic: what would you do? (Read 1128 times)

WhiteHawk · « **Reply #45 on:** December 16, 2005, 04:27:53 PM »

17 crips in 1 calss? Hmmm, how about a stricnine laced watermelon?

Shaky · « **Reply #46 on:** December 16, 2005, 06:23:14 PM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
lucky thing you aren't one of those racists.

How the hell do you know what I am?

Tell me how I amd a "Uncle Tom" or a "Racist" the next time I have to breathe for a 4 year old little girl because one of these animals decided he was "disrespected" and whipped out his 9 and sprayed the corner.

Make more assumptions about me while I try to clean the little girls blood from my hands while I hear her mother shreiking over her tiny corpse.

Judge what you THINK my thoughts are as I go home and hug my own little girl, hoping I can keep her safe from these animals.

Then go piss up a rope.

Typical liberal knee jerk reaction.

Dago · « **Reply #47 on:** December 16, 2005, 06:31:42 PM »

There are those who live in the real world of crime and thugs, and there are those who watch it on TV and think they know everything. Shaky is denied the illusion that all people are really good at heart and just need understanding.

SkyRock · « **Reply #48 on:** December 16, 2005, 07:05:43 PM »

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Originally posted by mora

He got a good deal I would say. I don't see a lot harm in it, if offered as a choice.

I don't know a system that doesn't require the teacher to give a choice!

SkyRock · « **Reply #49 on:** December 16, 2005, 07:09:24 PM »

By the way, Principal Jackson was overwhelmed by students today to start a fund for officer White and his family. The school and community is very upset about what happened. I don't know anyone who doesn't like officer White.

Jackal1 · « **Reply #50 on:** December 17, 2005, 06:29:00 AM »

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Originally posted by SkyRock
By the way, Principal Jackson was overwhelmed by students today to start a fund for officer White and his family. The school and community is very upset about what happened. I don't know anyone who doesn't like officer White.

Probably the other 12 punks don`t think to highly of officer White if he got cuffed and stuffed. Something to think about. He`s 19, he acts like an attack dog on school property..................... .not much of a decision to be made. Take his *** down. I couldn`t abide by a system such as you describe. One that opens the door and makes it easier for crap like this to take place. I`d either get out or raise hell and open some eyes. You don`t cure a rabid dog problem by telling everyone to just stay out of it`s way and friggen ignore that there is a problem.

Hangtime · « **Reply #51 on:** December 17, 2005, 06:55:11 AM »

there used to be something called 'citizens arrest'.

using force to restrain the perpetrator of a crime could be considered a violation of the perpetrators civil rights. however in your cirumstance i would have decked the guy when he ran towards me then restrained him 'in citizens arrest' untill relieved by the authorities. I'd allege that decking him was self defense. unless the dirtbag has a better lawyer than you do, you'd be cool.

sadly, you'd be a marked man in that neighborhood from that moment on. wouldn't give a penny for your chances of survival unless you are willing to establish yourself as the meanest mutha shucker in the school, enlisted a large group of like minded teahers and administrators and you all pulled together to make a change in the way things go down in that enviornment.

So, I'd say you did the right thing to preserve your own saftey. you did nothing to change your community. bear in mind there is no guilt to assume on your part.. your community has made it's choice (every one who saw that crime made the same choice you did when he ran towards them).

if that dosen't bug you, then yer cool, enjoy living in that ****hole.

if it does bug you, make a stand or get the hell out.

status-quo is a statement all it's own, ain't it?

Heiliger · « **Reply #52 on:** December 17, 2005, 08:16:55 AM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
Did you witness the crime? If you did, you might be liable for violating the samaritan law..... you better move.

I don't think that would apply to this case. If he'd had witnessed the event, then said, "Ouch! Too bad. Well, I better get to class..." then the law would have applied because he failed to aid the injured officer. From my understanding, the officer was pushed and the scum fled, he didn't stand over the officer kicking him, or try to go for any weapons to further injure him.

Sadly, if SkyRock touched the "kid", he probably would have been burnt at the stake when the kid showed up in court wearing a suit, sporting a black eye, and his grandma sobbing about how her little baby would never do anything to hurt anyone.

SkyRock, is leaving for another district an option at all? I know you said there were other kids with potential and I applaud you for your dedication, but you won't do them much good from the hospital bed or casket.

Hornet33 · « **Reply #53 on:** December 17, 2005, 11:03:35 AM »

I would have used "the minimum force neccesary to compel compliance" and laid his bellybutton out. I retire from the Coast Guard in 4 years and I'm looking to be a teacher (history). Yeah I would have taken him down and restrained him, and delt with the school board and courts afterwards.

In my opinion, by doing nothing and his little buddies seeing you do nothing only boost their already oversized ego's. Make an object leason out of one of them and then challange the rest to try the same thing, and put the fear into them.

I'm sorry about your friend and I hope me makes a speedy recovery.

I don't know maybe when I become a teacher my opinion will change but right now I feel that I would have done something.

SkyRock · « **Reply #54 on:** December 17, 2005, 11:49:07 AM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime

sadly, you'd be a marked man in that neighborhood from that moment on. wouldn't give a penny for your chances of survival unless you are willing to establish yourself as the meanest mutha shucker in the school, enlisted a large group of like minded teahers and administrators and you all pulled together to make a change in the way things go down in that enviornment.

You mean form a "gang" with some other teachers?

So, I'd say you did the right thing to preserve your own saftey. you did nothing to change your community. bear in mind there is no guilt to assume on your part.. your community has made it's choice (every one who saw that crime made the same choice you did when he ran towards them).

Let me clear this up, as it unfolded, I didn't have a realistic chance of hitting the kid as he was to far away from me and there were other students in between. He exit was incredibly fast as well.

stantond · « **Reply #55 on:** December 17, 2005, 01:36:35 PM »

I believe you acted with appropriate restraint. If you did try to detain the student and couldn't, you would probably be on charges with him claiming you damaged his arm.

Here in Virginia, there is a "three strikes and your out" law. That only applies to adults. I believe that approach should be extended to adolescents as well. There is always a question between mental age, physical maturity, and legal age. Physical maturity should be used when the person is not mentally underdeveloped and commits a violent crime. Reason, hope, and consistency are not effective tools to fight violent criminals who want to cause damage and destruction. Lock them up! The courts are (slowly) taking that position as well.

Regards,

Malta

Ripper29 · « **Reply #56 on:** December 29, 2005, 09:08:08 AM »

MEMPHIS - On December 15 2005 at approx. 2:00 PM, Officer Kedzie White, an officer assigned to schools, was injured as he attempted to arrest a student during an altercation in the Fairley High School gym.

The student body had assembled in the gymnasium for a Christmas program. There was a disturbance in the bleachers and Officer White was requested for assistance to quell the disturbance.

According to school officials, the student, Terrell Johnson, age 16, refused to leave the gym, and continued to create a disturbance. Officer White went into the bleachers to arrest Johnson. Johnson struggled with Officer White and pushed him away, propelling the two of them from the bleachers. Officer Kedzie landed head first on the gymnasium floor. Johnson was able to rise and flee from the school.

At approximately 3:00 pm, 15 December 2005, South Precinct officers took Johnson into custody after he arrived at Methodist South emergency room. Felony Assault Unit investigators later charged Terrell Johnson with Aggravated Assault, Resisting Official Detention and Disorderly Conduct. Homicide detectives were on the scene and assisted.

Officer White, a 16 year veteran, remains in the MED and is being treated for a head injury and internal injuries. He is in stable condition. Officer White has been assigned to the Officers in Schools program since 1990.

http://www.wreg.com/global/story.asp?s=4251569

Maverick · « **Reply #57 on:** December 29, 2005, 11:18:33 AM »

Skyrock,

You already know where you stand in the system. The district will not back you at all as the suspect is a juvinile (according to the article). Being that you were in a crowd of smaller kids trying to stop this hemorhoid would likely have caused injuries to one or more of them.

Your best option is the one you used. Do nothing phyisically and be a competent and accurate witness for the later trial. Unfortunately since this hemorhoid is a juvie he likely will not be tried as an adult and will be out (if he even goes into juvie detention) by the time he's 18.

You realize you will be a target for the rest of this scums gang once you testify. You really should consider leaving this particular school and hopefully leave some of the gang crap behind. It won't go away and you're reputation with the other wannabes and gang pukes will follow you long after this trial is over. This situation is not a case of leaving a "child" behind but ridding the education facility of a parasite that does nothing but detract from an educational situation.

As to some of the other comments posted in this thread by pot stirers, you guys really need to have a nice cup of stfu.

SkyRock · « **Reply #58 on:** December 29, 2005, 02:50:23 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripper29
MEMPHIS - On December 15 2005 at approx. 2:00 PM, Officer Kedzie White, an officer assigned to schools, was injured as he attempted to arrest a student during an altercation in the Fairley High School gym.

The student body had assembled in the gymnasium for a Christmas program. There was a disturbance in the bleachers and Officer White was requested for assistance to quell the disturbance.

According to school officials, the student, Terrell Johnson, age 16, refused to leave the gym, and continued to create a disturbance. Officer White went into the bleachers to arrest Johnson. Johnson struggled with Officer White and pushed him away, propelling the two of them from the bleachers. Officer Kedzie landed head first on the gymnasium floor. Johnson was able to rise and flee from the school.

At approximately 3:00 pm, 15 December 2005, South Precinct officers took Johnson into custody after he arrived at Methodist South emergency room. Felony Assault Unit investigators later charged Terrell Johnson with Aggravated Assault, Resisting Official Detention and Disorderly Conduct. Homicide detectives were on the scene and assisted.

Officer White, a 16 year veteran, remains in the MED and is being treated for a head injury and internal injuries. He is in stable condition. Officer White has been assigned to the Officers in Schools program since 1990.

http://www.wreg.com/global/story.asp?s=4251569

Thanks ripper I was told by another teacher Terrell was over 18, I stand corrected.

Grayeagle · « **Reply #59 on:** December 30, 2005, 09:28:40 AM »

I'd update resume, and find a better school to teach at.

There is *nothing* worth you or your family's life and limb.

These kids are dangerous, and the administration has already shown they won't protect you, and God help you if you protect yourself.

-GE (personally.. I would have found out where he lived, and had a chat with him, his dad, his friends, and anyone else that wanted to chat about what he did and why he would be ill-advised to attempt that kind of behaviour again.. and I would not have gone alone to do so.. if the chat escalated to more than that ..adult supervision would be arranged .. that's just me)