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Was this true about British taxes?
« on: December 19, 2005, 06:52:12 PM »
A person told me that more than one British Rock artists in the 60's and 70's changed their citizenship to U.S. due to the British Gov't taxing entertainers something like 95% of their wages. Is this true? Is it still true?

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« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2005, 07:14:27 PM »
I know the Rolling Stones spent a while in France to avoid the heavy income tax in Britain.  I've heard rumors of tax rates being 90-95%.  I've read interviews with the Beatles *****ing about it and I can't blame them;  You make all that money only to have most of it taken away.

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« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2005, 07:31:14 PM »
If its true, the term "subject" has a whole new meaning....

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« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2005, 09:49:33 PM »
It was more or less true back then. Nowadays multi-milllionaires like Valentino Rossi move to the UK from Europe for the lower taxes.

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« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2005, 09:51:35 PM »
Hense the song "Taxman", an early Beatle hit.....

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« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2005, 09:58:22 PM »
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A person told me that more than one British Rock artists in the 60's and 70's changed their citizenship to U.S. due to the British Gov't taxing entertainers something like 95% of their wages. Is this true? Is it still true?

Why do you think John Lennon lived in NYC ?

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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2005, 12:07:51 AM »
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Why do you think John Lennon lived in NYC ?


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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2005, 12:11:38 AM »
The Swedes faced the same fate too

Too bad ABBA singers did not move to USA.  ABBA was taxed and left only with .02 cents change

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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2005, 01:39:27 AM »
oh oh here come the british tax collectors again, run!!!

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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2005, 01:51:40 AM »
All the local F1 and Rally drivers live in Monaco, Switzerland etc. places with low taxes. Good for them and that's what I'd do in a hertbeat. When they come to visit they better not drive or do anything stupid, because they might be fined hundreds of thousands for small violations.

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« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2005, 02:06:15 AM »
The tax was graduated so the amount above x level was at that rate. The US had a similar system, but reduced it before the UK did.

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Re: Was this true about British taxes?
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2005, 04:49:06 AM »
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A person told me that more than one British Rock artists in the 60's and 70's changed their citizenship to U.S. due to the British Gov't taxing entertainers something like 95% of their wages. Is this true? Is it still true?
In fact it was slightly worse than that. The top rate of income tax, which only the very well off would be eligible to pay, was 83%. But in addition to this, there was a 15% surcharge on "unearned" income (from investments etc.) making a total of 98%! The reason for the high rates was a socialist, Labour govt. led by Harold Wilson, then by Jim Callaghan, who had gained office by promising to end the 3-day week that had been imposed to conserve fuel during the 1973/74 miners' strike. The only way they could do it was to pay off the miners with a huge pay rise of ~30%, but then there was an army of workers who wanted theirs. The govt was basically hijacked, and as well as huge pay settlements was having to pour in billions of £ to loss making, strike riven, nationalised industries. The smart money buggered off overseas, so tax receipts actually went down. But the unions wanted more and more and by January 1979, in the middle of one of the coldest winters I can remember, the country reached a state of collapse in season which became known as the Winter of Discontent. The Labour govt. got bounced out of office in May 1979 on a vote of no confidence.

Margaret Thatcher became PM. From Day1 her quest was to tackle the unions, and tackle them she did. The supply of money that was being haemorrhaged into those overmanned, loss making, 19th century industries was cut off! Whereas few politicians could only dream of income tax lower than 40%, Thatcher made it happen. Within a few years, the top rate of tax had come down through 60%, 50% and settled at 40% where it remains to this day. The 15% investment surcharge was abolished, and the wealthy entertainers you spoke of - guys like Elton John - began returning to Britain. Tax receipts actually went up because more people were prepared to pay, and the rates were more competitive with the rest of the world.

The current govt led by Blair (soon to be superseded by Gordon Brown - I give Blair 6 months max) has reversed much of the good done by Thatcher, as it believes in a high tax economy. It is my belief that this current govt will also end in a state of economic collapse, possibly within 2-3 years.

As for our entertainers becoming US citizens, I don't think many did. I think most of them applied to be resident aliens.

Sorry to besmirch this thread with the facts - I realise it was a troll. :p

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« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2005, 07:29:24 AM »
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Sorry to besmirch this thread with the facts - I realise it was a troll. :p
 Just because 99% of your posts are trolls, doesn't mean everyones are.

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« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2005, 11:00:55 AM »
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 Just because 99% of your posts are trolls, doesn't mean everyones are.
I agree. In your case, it's closer to 100%. :p

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« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2005, 01:21:11 PM »
How does that lame saying go?

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