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Offline hubsonfire

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« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2005, 01:36:41 PM »
Wow, just goes to show that hog pilots aren't the brightest crayons.  :D

I have intentionally caused collisions on a few occasions, but only once have I actually killed a plane from ramming from behind (snicker); was in an La7 hunting goons, got several, ran out of ammo, and found one more, doing what I suppose goons consider "running". Ran him down, and dove at his tail. Cut my wing off, and I suppose the larger parts of my plane flew through his nose on his FE. He went down in chunks, and I dropped right behind him.

Effective in that particular case, but it sucks to get killed at alt by a plane with no armament.
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« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2005, 01:45:35 PM »
Apparently the Russian pilots did more then their share.  I remembered something I'd read when I was a kid and dug out the book and scanned it for ya :)

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« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2005, 02:20:40 PM »
See Rule #7
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« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2005, 02:20:41 PM »
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« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2005, 02:38:50 PM »
Yes me and somebody else (maybe jish).


Went after set of buffs.. Pumped all our ammo into um still didn't die:( Only 1 left he had lots of damage though.


I rammed him (well scraped my wing on his and he died I didn't =)

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« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2005, 06:54:55 PM »
yup been out of ammo many times locked up on some guys 6 and tried to ram him. most of the time I cant hit him. the times I have hit a fighter I alone have gone down. funny when I tried to hit um I cant. but god help me if I am closing fast and trying to miss one. several time I have rammed a bomber when bingo and killed him and me at the same time.
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« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2005, 10:17:48 PM »
I have 'induced' a ram a few times. The timing can be a bit iffy. Never from the other guy's 6 though.
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« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2005, 10:50:11 PM »
See Rule #7
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« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2005, 11:48:01 PM »
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Peep this:

"At the outbreak of the World War II, on September 1, 1939, the Polish Air Force had 109 PZL P.11c and 20 P.11a (and 30 P.7a) in combat units. Further 43 P.11c were in reserve or undergoing repairs. Only a third of P.11c were armed with 4 machineguns, the rest had only 2, even fewer had a radio. P.11 were used in 12 squadrons, each with 10 aircraft (two squadrons constituted a group, in Polish: dywizjon). Two groups - 4 squadrons - were in the Pursuit Brigade deployed around Warsaw, the rest were assigned to Armies. All of them took part in the Polish September Campaign. Apart from combat units, several P.11, including a prototype P.11g, were used in units improvised at air bases.

By September 1, the fighter squadrons had been deployed to remote airfields, so they were not bombed by the Germans. During the campaign, P.11 fought against more modern German bombers and fighters. Not only were the German Bf 109 and Bf 110 faster and better armed, but also most German bombers were faster than P.11c as well. Since the planes were intensively used, their maximum speed was still lower than the theoretical 375 km/h. P.11a were in an even worse situation.

On the other hand, Polish planes had better maneouvreability and because of its design it had much better vision, from the cockpit, than the German planes. P.11 had a strong construction and also could operate from short fields, even rough ones. It was also of a very durable construction and could dive at up to 600 km/h without risk of the wings falling apart. Theoretically the only limit in maneouvres was the pilots ability to sustain high G forces. Despite the German superiority, P.11 managed to shoot down a considerable number of German aircraft, including fighters, but suffered heavy losses as well. The exact numbers are not fully verified, but it appears that at least one German plane shot down for each P.11 lost (a figure of 141 German planes is often given as compared with 118 planes lost).

The first aircraft shot down in World War II, on September 1 at dawn, was a PZL P.11c of Capt. Mieczysław Medwecki shot down by a German Ju 87. The first Allied air victory was achieved 20 minutes later by Medwecki's wingman, Wladyslaw Gnys who shot down two Dornier Do 17E with his P.11c. It was also the first airplane to successfully ram an enemy plane in WWII.





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« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2005, 09:04:45 AM »
I've died (like instant tower died) everytime I've flown up someones tail pipe. Now I wonder if its a matter of tracking angle off close to their 6. They turn into you. Now even if they don't see you in one of thier side back views (they're not looking back), I think they would still be penalized for the collision. Maybe its amatter of the person not being in the view where the collision is. I'd think it would work like this. If I'm flying into a players tail pipe and switched to another view, I'd bet I'd still get the collision death. It seems that would work like that for any view. The guy accusing you of the ram just didn't see the collision.

I'd like to test this. Fly in front of someone and chop throttle to see if I die from the collision.

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« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2005, 09:11:56 AM »
BTW: After all these collision threads. It does mater in any way which way you are looking.

Edit:
Should read:
It does NOT mater in any way which way you are looking.

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« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2005, 10:10:02 AM »
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yup been out of ammo many times locked up on some guys 6 and tried to ram him. most of the time I cant hit him. the times I have hit a fighter I alone have gone down. funny when I tried to hit um I cant. but god help me if I am closing fast and trying to miss one. several time I have rammed a bomber when bingo and killed him and me at the same time.
LOLH So true!  I haven't seen much rhyme or reason to the collision model except that no matter what I usually die lol.

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« Reply #27 on: December 22, 2005, 10:25:13 AM »
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BTW: After all these collision threads. It does mater in any way which way you are looking.

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Huh ? ... :rolleyes:
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« Reply #28 on: December 22, 2005, 10:30:27 AM »
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BTW: After all these collision threads. It does mater in any way which way you are looking.

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« Reply #29 on: December 22, 2005, 10:32:49 AM »
I pretty sure that was meant to be "it *doesn't* matter which way they're looking."