Court Ordered Extortion

[SirLoin]

Very well said Ripley.

[Maverick]

Nirvana,

Short answer is yes, particularly if on the employers property and on the job.

While the "penalty" for "expressing" yourself likely won't get you any govt. sanction you can still be let go for what you say.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by nirvana
That's what I always thought, Sundowner.  You can steal it but you can't spread it.  I don't P2P anymore, too much spyware and other crap that I don't need.


Then again there were the good old Napster days....

And also regarding the Constitution, an employer can limit what his employees say just because?  The Constitution is only valid against government abuses and not against regular citizens?  (at least i'm trying to learn:rolleyes: )

RE: the constitution.  It's like this....an employer can limit just about anything he wants in reguards to his employees speech.  The constitution limits the govt, and the laws that congress makes.  This is in the most simplist terms but an employer cannot break said laws established by congress (or state/local) and those laws cannot violate the constitution.  There's no law saying I have the right to privacy there's a right saying congress cannot infringe apon it.  BUT, there's also laws saying everyone else cannot either (IE tresspassing)  

Threre's other parts to this as well.  Most times when you get hired by somone you have to follow some kind of employee code of conduct.  In that code they put things like, your person and personal locker are subject to search with or without your consent.  These are employers rules that you have to follow in order to keep your job.  I hope I've explained it well.

[nirvana]

Alright, i get it.

While they are still part of the recording industry one of the only labels I support is Alternative Tentacles.  They are probably screwing me and everyone else over as much as buying a CD from Sony but, they seem to have a fighting chance.  And lord knows Jello Biafra has to pay those a**holes from the Dead Kennedys.  I won't buy anything Dead Kennedys if Manifesto Records released it because the execs are scum bags.

[lasersailor184]

It's still illegal to download music in P2P services.  It's just that it's so hard to track and catch that it is not worth prosecuting.

How will the RIAA figure out how two seperate people sent a file to each other when neither have any contact with the RIAA?  They can't (easily).

But the RIAA will look in your Shared Folder and see all the files you are willingly sharing.  That's where they get you.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

Actually you're wrong lasersailor. All they need to do is to put their own labels on demand and the victims clients will send them the data - providing them with evidence.

The fact that they break copyright laws and privacy laws themselves while doing it has been little noted.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
Actually you're wrong lasersailor. All they need to do is to put their own labels on demand and the victims clients will send them the data - providing them with evidence.

The fact that they break copyright laws and privacy laws themselves while doing it has been little noted.

Usually the share programs TOS as well.