Author Topic: Lanc Cockpit (Read 1385 times)

cav58d · « **on:** December 30, 2005, 06:42:35 PM »

My understanding was that the lanc was a single pilot airplane...If this is the case why is there a yolk and rudder assembly in the "right seat" of this lanc? My first guess was the pilots seat was on a horizontal slide and was able to fly from either left or right seat (his preference) but most likely I am wrong...so whats up with this lanc?

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mipoikel · « **Reply #1 on:** December 31, 2005, 03:10:09 AM »

Just a guess but... maybe training version?

Furball · « **Reply #2 on:** December 31, 2005, 06:43:45 AM »

I think that is the cockpit of the BBMF Lancaster "Mickey the Moocher"

I guess they added the extra control column for filming work or for flying the airshow circuit.

http://www.raf.mod.uk/bbmf/bomber.html

KD303 · « **Reply #3 on:** December 31, 2005, 08:36:45 AM »

I'm pretty sure that the photo isn't of the cockpit of PA474 (Mickey The Moocher) or of the only other flying example. Found this pic of the RAF's BBMF Lancaster (PA474) on the net.

Very cramped! Even for one. Both of the Lancasters that are fit to fly have dual controls.

From the beginning of 1943, bomber command replaced the co-pilots in its four engined heavies with the new flight-engineer. Although the Lanc was a single pilot aircraft and the pilot sat on the left, (he couldn't swap sides if he felt like it) there was a jump seat on the right for the flight engineer who helped the pilot with many of the jobs previously done by the co-pilot and occupied this seat on take off and landing.

This picture shows a pilot and flight engineer in a Lancaster.

Furball · « **Reply #4 on:** December 31, 2005, 08:39:18 AM »

i've been in a lanc, the cockpit isn't cramped! great view from all that glass too!

Angus · « **Reply #5 on:** December 31, 2005, 08:15:17 PM »

Were you crabbing around in the Hendon Lannie?
Anyway, Lancaster is in no way cramped compared to other WW2 bombers.
The escape hatch was always on a budget though,,,,,

Furball · « **Reply #6 on:** January 01, 2006, 07:31:59 AM »

no, the BBMF lanc.

i found the B17G to be far more cramped, i had real trouble standing up even up to the waist section. the fuselage shape of a lannie means that its quite easy to stand up. the only real difficulty is climbing over the main spar around the radio op position.

HoHun · « **Reply #7 on:** January 01, 2006, 08:19:27 AM »

Hi Furball,

>I think that is the cockpit of the BBMF Lancaster "Mickey the Moocher"

I have seen that Lancaster in flight two or three times, but not on the ground, and wasn't aware of its name.

What does "Moocher" mean? I know the term - but not its meaning! - from the Cab Calloway's Jazz title "Minnie the Moocher" and supposed it was US slang of the era. Seems I was wrong in that! :-)

Regards,

Henning (HoHun)

Ghosth · « **Reply #8 on:** January 01, 2006, 08:23:54 AM »

Know that guy who's constantly bumming a smoke off you? He's a moocher.

MiloMorai · « **Reply #9 on:** January 01, 2006, 08:25:23 AM »

Henning, a moocher is someone that 'bums' or 'freeloads' off other people.

- someone who wants something for free .. someone who takes and takes but doesn't give back.

- a person who goes around and just takes from other people

Klum25th · « **Reply #10 on:** January 01, 2006, 12:24:54 PM »

Probably the reason why there is another yolk and rudder assembly is because the lancaster shown in that picture is for air shows. I went to an Air show and they had a A-26 there. The plane is supose to only have a pilot seat and no co-pilot seat, kinda like the lanc. But I guess now days, two or more engine aircraft have to have a co-pilot on board so now the A-26 at the airshow had a pilot seat and co-pilot seat. Becuase that first picture you posted seems resent, the extra yolk and rudder is probley there for the co-pilot that is required for probably 2 or more engine aircraft. Even if it is a ww2 plane. This is my opinion.

Charge · « **Reply #11 on:** January 02, 2006, 05:10:35 AM »

http://website.lineone.net/~norman.groom/index.htm

Cool.

-C+

MiloMorai · « **Reply #12 on:** January 02, 2006, 05:59:53 AM »

Just found out last night that the Canadian Lancaster is grounded.

Angus · « **Reply #13 on:** January 02, 2006, 09:56:51 AM »

The Canadian "Lancastersociety" is some establishment and I belive they have a good website still. Through that one actually, I got to know a Canadian Spitfire vet. "Duke" Warren was the name, and he lived in Comox.

KD303 · « **Reply #14 on:** January 02, 2006, 10:26:26 AM »

The Lanc is cramped. I'm talking about the cockpit, and my idea of cramped of course! I'm over 6 foot 3. Lanc pilots were little chaps.
The Lanc at Hendon's cockpit is strictly off limits to the public, unless you know somebody who knows somebody...You can walk round the Sunderland, if I remember correctly.
As I said before - the picure that the OP posted is not the BBMF Lancaster. Anyone know which it is?