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Offline wrag

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« on: January 01, 2006, 03:02:05 PM »
Mom, 13, is ruled a sex crime offender

Hmmmm......................  this one of those Judge Dred things?  

http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_3358959
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« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2006, 03:14:49 PM »
Punish the children thats the ticket..............:(
Force the 13 year old girl to have the baby too.. That will teach her...
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« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2006, 03:16:32 PM »
IMHO they seem to want to take an already bad situation and make it allot worse.

SAD, very SAD:(
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« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2006, 03:19:09 PM »
Richards pointed out that Utah law says minors under age 14 do not have the ability to consent to sexual activity.

    "It's a paradox," he said.

"How can they be old enough to commit an offense if they're not old enough to consent to it?"

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Utah, go figure......
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« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2006, 05:29:03 PM »
Guess they didn't think the child's life was fluffiedup enough.  

Judge should be put out on his ear, he's the one that should be flippin burgers.
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« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2006, 08:36:26 PM »
Suave,

The judge is not responsible for the content of the laws. That is the responsibility of the legislature. The judge is just stuck with dealing with them as written.
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« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2006, 08:39:41 PM »
Is it stupid to enforce a stupid law? Or just an aversion to civil disobedience?
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« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2006, 08:54:41 PM »
The judge's responsibility is to deal with matters brought to his / her court and rule on them according to written law.

My guess is the concept that a minor under 14 cannot consent to sexual relations is intended to prevent a defence by a pedophile claiming that it WAS consentual on tha part of the juvinile. It is a legal situation set by the legislature, not the judge.

The judge may refuse to hear the case by excusing himself but it will simply go to another judge. Refusal to hear cases may also be grounds for removal of the judge from the bench. Again, they are not responsible for the content of the law. They ARE responsible to hear the cases brought before them.

My question in this case is not regarding the juviniles. My question is what about the responsibility of the parents of each of the kids.
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« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2006, 10:07:44 AM »
It's Utah. :rolleyes:
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Re: Mom, 13, is ruled a
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2006, 10:17:22 AM »
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Originally posted by wrag
Mom, 13, is ruled a sex crime offender

Hmmmm......................  this one of those Judge Dred things?  

http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_3358959


Don't you guys know that the Government is better at parenting than parents are???

Gentleman...we have ourselves one screwed up justice system is this country.
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« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2006, 10:22:27 AM »
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Don't you guys know that the Government is better at parenting than parents are???

Gentleman...we have ourselves one screwed up justice system is this country.


Dammit Rude, now I must convey this to my 4 year old son! :rofl
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Re: Re: Mom, 13, is ruled a
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2006, 10:22:52 AM »
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Don't you guys know that the Government is better at parenting than parents are???

Gentleman...we have ourselves one screwed up justice system is this country.


And now you just realize that. Wondering where lots of TV series get their ideas from..??

Realistically speaking every country has some F`ed up laws, but some common sense should be used when using them. But hey, this world is bureucrats paradise.. 1% population makes tons of paper to rule the rest who flip the finger on those silly rules..
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« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2006, 10:36:20 AM »
Right on my Finnish friend....however, in this country it's our collective fault for all of this crap. We do not pay attention to those we elect and we continue to allow them to remain in office rather than getting involved and removing them from office.

My country has changed alot in the last 50 years.
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« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2006, 12:14:08 PM »
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Right on my Finnish friend....however, in this country it's our collective fault for all of this crap. We do not pay attention to those we elect and we continue to allow them to remain in office rather than getting involved and removing them from office.

My country has changed alot in the last 50 years.



You are so right Rude.

It has changed a lot in just the past 20!  I remember going duck hunting before school back in the 80's, coming to school, and carrying my shotgun (in a soft case) into the principals office so it did not get stolen out of my car during the day.  Funny thing is, they'd leave the ducks in a cooler alone!  Try that now, you'd be gunned down before you pulled it out of your car.

We really all need to get together and toss 90% of these idiotic legislators out on their collective ears and put in people who care about the country's future for all instead of the priveledged few.
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« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2006, 12:19:42 PM »
Nothing to see here, move on...

This IS Utah, afterall...:D
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