Still need new gv's

[muffdvr]

Hey don't get me wrong I like the different gv's Aces has to offer, but we do need some more.  We could use a german half track just like the M3, but this also had the war time option of rocket/mortor launcher( Stuka Fuz).

Maybe a Panther type G, King Tiger, Sturm panzer.  Or even Changing the desin of the flak panzer that actually has two cannons insted of one.

[Saxman]

All the tanks are German and Russian as it is, the allies just have the support vehicles.

Let's get a Sherman in here. Or how about British or Japanese tanks? Those would be very useful once TOD goes to the Pacific.

[Tilt]

I think we would benefit more from different types of vehicles fulfilling differing roles.................... before we worry about which countries vehicles are being represented appropriatly.

[Fencer51]

Originally posted by Saxman
Japanese tanks?

[SMIDSY]

japanese tanks were some of the worst in WWII, right next to the italian tanks.

[Simaril]

Originally posted by Saxman
snip....Japanese tanks? ....snip

If you want the Japanese tank experience, up an M8 and leave it in first gear.....

[Grits]

Actually I think the US 37mm was superior to the IJA tank guns which even though some were as large as 47mm they were short barrel and low muzzle velocity. The Italians should be glad the IJA made such poor tanks, otherwise they would be in solid control of "worst tanks of WWII".

[Saxman]

Hey, it's for immersiveness.

[Klum25th]

I like to see the sherman, or a british tank, and maybe an Axis tank the sherman or a british tanks could match. People say the sherman would be bad for AH, I dont think it will. Me and my friends had M8s (5 total) and we disabled a Tiger tank, and didnt loose a single guy until after we disabled him, then we lost 2, rest keep shooting at them tell another guy with a tiger came and finished the job. If we had 5 shermans, that be a different story. We could have disabled his turret, engine, or even kill it.

In the movie band of brothers, the part were they jump into Holland and they meet up with the british armor, what was that british tank. There were like 5 shermans and like 3 of these other tanks, with like big round bolts all over it. That be a great addition to.

[rshubert]

Originally posted by Simaril
If you want the Japanese tank experience, up an M8 and leave it in first gear.....

And only use HE rounds.

[Karnak]

I understand one Japanese tank had a high velocity 47mm cannon on it that would outperform the M-8's 37mm.  Other than that, yeah.

Oddly, the largest tank assault in the Pacific Theater was a Japanese counter attack on a US position using about 40 tanks.  Surprised the heck out of us and punched a ways in, but not far enough.  We held and I think the Japanese lost 100%, or nearly that, of the tanks.

[Bodhi]

Originally posted by Klum25th

In the movie band of brothers, the part were they jump into Holland and they meet up with the british armor, what was that british tank. There were like 5 shermans and like 3 of these other tanks, with like big round bolts all over it. That be a great addition to.

I believe they were Cromwells

[DoKGonZo]

Originally posted by muffdvr
...  Or even Changing the desin of the flak panzer that actually has two cannons insted of one.

You're referring to the Wirbelwind ... basically the same as the Ostie but with quad 20mm's ... which could make vultching a lot more hazardous than a single 37mm does, but you'd have to make the turret more vulnerable to .50cal fire to keep some balance (mainly so that just about any decent plane stood a chance of killing the gun crew).

Or you mean the US M19, which had dual 40mm Bofors guns. The turret had very little armor and in fact the ammo cannisters were stored on the exterior, so I imagine a few 20mm hits and this puppy would go boom. Still, it fired 40mm shells at 240 rpm - that's a lot of lead - and if it's modeled as fused, well, hehe ...

As for tanks, I actually like the T34 - it's nice and fast and I can zip over to a town and blow it up pretty effectively, and then scoot when the Panzers and Tigers come to save the day. Maybe the M36 Pershing for a new US tank - a perk-free vehicle to go Tiger hunting with ... though it'd have crap for armor, it would have to manouever for the shot and score hits before the Tiger could traverse ... which is how tank destroyers had to operate for real.

[MOIL]

DrKGonZo gets the prize:aok

Yes it is the Wirbelwind, my all time favorite AA veh of WWII. Isn't she simply gorgous!!
I have been requesting this veh be added to AH since I first started playing yrs ago.

The only thing I don't agree with is  "but you'd have to make the turret more vulnerable to .50cal fire to keep some balance (mainly so that just about any decent plane stood a chance of killing the gun crew)"
The reason I don't agree is, the Osty turret is already extremely easy to disable. Furthermore, the AA guns of AH are already at a HUGE disadvantage it isn't even funny. The amount of fire needed to bring down a plane traveling at high speed or from a dive is ungodly. It is nearly impossible to kill the typical "field porker" with just a few Osties and or field guns.
The attacking plane or planes have all the advantage, they can fire mutipule rockets, drop numorus bombs, shoot many more rounds and are moving (usually) at high speeds.
The ground gun or Flak, has only ONE gun, is stationary and has no where near the rate of fire of a plane armmed with 4-20mils, or 8-50's

[DoKGonZo]

My point mainly on vulnerability is (and has always been) that right now only cannons stand a chance to disable AAA. And while forged steel stands up well to .50 cal fire, human beings and ammo cases do not. With a Wirbelwind, quad-20's makes for a pretty deadly (albeit close range) hail of fire - it would be the dominant GV - and if only cannon-armed planes could take them out then you'd see an even stronger shift in the MA away from planes without cannons.