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Offline Treize69

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« on: January 03, 2006, 03:52:03 AM »






Still a good bit f work to be done- the only weathering I have added at this point is gunsmoke and some paint chips on the cowling, plus I have to re-do the the markings on the underside.
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« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2006, 03:58:02 AM »
Here are 2 of the pics I am working from- a rather well known shot of the pilot and crew with the aircraft, and although its low quality, the only profile I have found with the proper tail number.



 

many thanks to Krusty for letting me use his Emil template!

PS- I am also wroking on the same pilots 109G2, but the paint scheme is very intricate, and I am also having to make a template for myself, so it is taking FOREVER.
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« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2006, 05:20:46 AM »
Do the outline on country symbol yourself.. Looks stretched same thing with your (noseart)

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« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2006, 10:02:03 AM »
i think they are looking good,i was looking at this aircraft before wheni did the old skin but there was too much mirroring,i had started on my versionwith the upto date model but looks like u beat me too it.
     if i could get the time to finsish things  it would help lol.

nice to see the  romanian skins
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« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2006, 02:20:15 PM »
The stretching of the image has a lot do to with the markings looking distorted, the hosting service I use resizes all images to the same width. :(
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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2006, 02:10:25 AM »



Finished chipping the paint and added exhaust stains, dirt and fading next.

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nice to see the  romanian skins


See the image linked in my sig, theres a few more where this came from :aok ;)
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« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2006, 10:32:37 AM »
1) There's a black stripe on the tip of the port stabilizer, looks like the skin doesn't extend far enough for that part

2) The underside shows the old markings were painted over with darker colors (same green as on the upper surfaces it seems???), rather than simply light blue. I would literally overpaint the entire area then move this layer just underneath the romanian cross.

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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2006, 01:50:25 PM »
Black bar has been fixed.

Underside roundel was actually not painted over at all on the real one, the Mihai Cross was simply painted over it. I dulled it down on mine so it didn't look so weird.

I'm having issues with getting the scale of the markings exactly the same as in the photo, the current incarnation is as close as I can get it without looking distorted or having one set too far out of place.
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« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2006, 02:59:26 PM »


What are the original roundel colors? Yours seem to be blue/white/blue. The one under the wings on this picture is much darker than blue/white/blue, and since the entire upper surface is a single color, the trend I've seen is that they use that one color everywhere (because it's all they have), I'd made the guess that the undersides were paitned over. The roundel isn't just faded, it's very dark (overpainted) and there's a square panel, that I *think* is just an access panel under the wing. It's got heavy bolts around it in the template I sent you, and it might be a different shade of light blue, but it stands out a lot (strange, but interesting).

I'd like to hear your thoughts on overpainting/not the roundels. I'd suggest that if "not" you bring them out a bit more -- that is to say fade them less, to better match the photo.

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« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2006, 03:35:23 PM »
Blue/yellow/red

The roundels were applied in the fall of 1940 when the ARR received its first batch of Emils. The Mihai (Michaels) Crosses were applied in the late spring of 1941 before the invasion of Russia.



Several Emils did not get the yellow nose applied until Barbarossa as well, which led to several different shades of yellow being used as the early ones were painted with their own stocks of yellow paint, and the later ones were either acquired from the Germans with the yellow already applied or repainted with the RLM 04 supplied by the Germans.

I decided not to do the underside markings exactly the same (even though I have yet to see a skin or model of this plane that uses both insignia on the undersides) because as you can see in the pic, there is no white border on the overlapped portion of the cross, and it seemed to blend together way too much for my tatses. Looked too field applied for my tastes. So I opted to fade the cockade and border the entire cross.

Although, to be honest, since you can't see the tail on this aircraft, there isn't agreement on whether this is his original "Yellow 9" or a replacement aircraft. It may be a replacement with the crosses and noseart applied over the original. Nobody is too sure.



"Yellow 9" did not survive to be replaced by his G2 "White 227", it may have been a combat loss replaced by "Yellow 27" or "Yellow 38" two of the others often seen in profile in de Cesares markings.



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« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2006, 04:18:02 PM »
Very interesting stuff :aok

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« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2006, 04:27:04 PM »
<--- Nerd to the Nth power.
Treize (pronounced 'trays')- because 'Treisprezece' is too long and even harder to pronounce.

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