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Offline Squire

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« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2006, 07:52:03 PM »
There are many folks here with in depth knowledge about the technical aspects of WW2 fighters. I may disagree with them on some things, but I can have a reasonable conversation with them most of the time (when im sober and the voices in my head stop yelling).

...and if that fails I get a BOOK. Where we all get our info anyways, since none of us own or flew real WW2 fighters.  

Nobody here has some special corner on the truth, or ever did. Look it up for yourself and decide, relying on others to dispense knowledge is a sure way to get drowned in BS and politics.

And thats all I have to say on that.
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« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2006, 08:40:40 PM »
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LOL we just lost a guy who could provide us a ton of information about 109s


We dont need him. I hope they banned his IP address too so his other BBS names (VO101_Isegrim, others?) cant be used either
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« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2006, 02:55:45 AM »
Er, I must humbly deny being on the list - I'm just a 'look up the internet, think about it a little, and copy and post' guy. I can only comment on what everyone already talked about, and mush up all the info in conclusion. Nothing original out of me, nor do I have any kind of firsthand info.

 As for the turn time/radius info from Soviet sources, here's how our AH info compares. I'm not sure how the Soviets tested it.. but the AH2 values are for all planes at under 500ft altitude using WEP settings for throttle and turning as tightly as possible without consideration for turn rate, only turn radius:


Soviet Source
All At 1,000m(3,000ft) altitude

Spitfire IXLF - 235m
Yak 1 - 275m
Yak 9? - 290m
La-5 : 310m
La-5FN : 295m
Me109G-2 : 290m
FW190A : 340m
P-39 : 253-280m


AH2
All at 500ft altitude

Spit Mk.8: 170.7m
Yak1: plane not available
Yak-9T: 205.0m
Yak-9U: 205.5m
La-5: plane not available
La-5FN: 199.8m
Bf109G-2: 214.0m
Fw190A-5: 269.0m
Fw190A-8: 296.3m
P-39: plane not available

 All our AH planes has about 30~50m smaller radius than the real life figures universally. No doubt the real life figures were using different test perimeters.
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« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2006, 05:06:30 AM »
Why was he banned? I don't see anything offensive in his posts.
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« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2006, 05:16:35 AM »
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 All our AH planes has about 30~50m smaller radius than the real life figures universally. No doubt the real life figures were using different test perimeters.


Given the Russian data seem to be given at least partially for military power (or similar setting) and the altitude is a bit higher, the agreement between AH and Russian data seem to be pretty good.

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« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2006, 06:42:17 AM »
Congratz! Your campaign finally succeeded.
So... who will be smoked out next?
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« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2006, 07:54:46 AM »
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Congratz! Your campaign finally succeeded.
So... who will be smoked out next?


Kurfursts own words got him banned, all I and others did was send his words to HTC so they would not miss what vile things he posted. He got what he deserved.
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Offline Harry

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« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2006, 08:01:04 AM »
Me thinks he got mobbed. 10 guys each taking turn to pick on him, and when he retaliates make sure the teacher sees it. This BBS can be so juvenile at times.
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Offline Morpheus

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« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2006, 08:01:41 AM »
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Why was he banned? I don't see anything offensive in his posts.


:rolleyes:
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Offline Harry

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« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2006, 08:04:02 AM »
Could you please point them out to me?
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« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2006, 08:11:43 AM »
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Could you please point them out to me?


Checkout towards the end of this thread -
http://www.flyaceshigh.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=167559
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Offline Harry

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« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2006, 08:17:44 AM »
His posts seem to have been censured, and also those of many other posters.
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Offline Morpheus

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« Reply #27 on: January 04, 2006, 08:27:28 AM »
Then guess what?

You're just going to have to feel confident that Skuzzy made a fair and justified decision to ban him.

If you dont, oh well, he still aint coming back.

You obviously didnt pay attention or didnt even read that thread while it took a turn for the worse.... Which was all thanks to your friend.
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Offline Harry

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« Reply #28 on: January 04, 2006, 08:41:49 AM »
Given that he has been banned at least three times before IIRC, what makes you think he’ll stay away this time? He isn’t my friend, nor are you for that matter.
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« Reply #29 on: January 04, 2006, 09:10:01 AM »
THE BEATINGS MUST CONTINUE UNTIL RESULTS ARE ACHIEVED!
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