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« on: January 03, 2006, 07:46:23 AM »
WINSTON CHURCHILL ON ISLAM - SPEECH IN 1899!

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries!
Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia
in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent
in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture,
sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the
followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this
life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The
fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his
absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay
the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be
a great power among men.

Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the
religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No
stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund,
Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread
throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were
it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the
science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern
Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome."

-Sir Winston Churchill (The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pages 248-50
(London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1899).

A totally misunderstood man...

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« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2006, 07:57:04 AM »
if Churchill sicked Harris on islam he would have rocked, instead of the pu**y Harris going after other civilized nations.
Bis endlich der Fiend am Boden liegt.
Bis Bishland bis Bishland bis Bishland wird besiegt!

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« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2006, 07:59:40 AM »
Thanks Tojo, great speech by a great man. Held in very high esteem in this country, we even have the USS Winston Churchill. Now we will have those who will say is was taken out of context, or that he was a closet racist.

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« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2006, 08:08:02 AM »
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if Churchill sicked Harris on islam he would have rocked, instead of the pu**y Harris going after other civilized nations.

lol....

'civilised'

WSC was a great man, who foresaw many events.  

http://www.churchill-society-london.org.uk/Locusts.html

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/churchill-iron.html
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« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2006, 08:24:20 AM »
Looking back at 1800's to early 1900's english it seems to me that our language skills have degressed, You don't see anybody write in that style anymore and I am not really pointing to the subject of the writings just they way Churchill worded the paragraphs..   I guess as education gets dumbed down we have to dumb down our use of language to keep it simple...  I read a statistic the other day that the average education level in the US was 8th grade, and because of this fact some very prominent publishers have developed software that will rewrite text to an 8th grade reading level to make it easier or sell more books...

Winstons writings point to an understood fact, that islamic religion just doesn't evolve at all, for the last 100 years not much has changed..  And his comment about europe falling the way of the Roman empire is inevitable... I expect that the USA will have to go this one alone as well, another 100 years war...
 
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« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2006, 08:56:42 AM »
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lol....

'civilised'

WSC was a great man, who foresaw many events.  

http://www.churchill-society-london.org.uk/Locusts.html

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/churchill-iron.html

you of course know if Harris was on hitlers side you would have hung him so fast
Bis endlich der Fiend am Boden liegt.
Bis Bishland bis Bishland bis Bishland wird besiegt!

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« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2006, 09:14:24 AM »
actually. i am british, and i believe that the bastards got everything they deserved.

the street my dad grew up on in London had 2 buildings standing, the rest were destroyed by bombing during the blitz.  the block of flats that they lived in and a sweet shop (candy shop) opposite.

they tried to: quote hitler: "raize their cities to the ground" they failed and thus "reaped the whirlwhind"

if russia nuked 5 of your cities, and you responded by nuking 20 of theirs, i am sure you would feel fine about it.
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« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2006, 09:30:42 AM »
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if Churchill sicked Harris on islam he would have rocked, instead of the pu**y Harris going after other civilized nations.


Bastige !
You just broke my Troll-O-Meter !

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« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2006, 02:52:28 PM »
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you of course know if Harris was on hitlers side you would have hung him so fast


Kesselring and Sperrle weren't hanged for doing the same thing to London (and other British cities) in 1940 and 1941. Kesselring served 5 years for murdering hostages in Italy, no Germans were charged with anything to do with bombing (apart from the bombing of Belgrade, which had been declared an open city)

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« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2006, 06:30:03 PM »
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Kesselring and Sperrle weren't hanged for doing the same thing to London (and other British cities) in 1940 and 1941. Kesselring served 5 years for murdering hostages in Italy, no Germans were charged with anything to do with bombing (apart from the bombing of Belgrade, which had been declared an open city)


 LOL,  how does a speech by Churchill in 1899 get changed into a pissing contest about Bomber Harris. The guys job was to bomb Germany, so he bombed Germany. Come to think of it , he did a damn fine job.
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« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2006, 08:16:23 PM »
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If the Almighty were to rebuild the world and asked me for advice, I would have English Channels round every country. And the atmosphere would be such that anything which attempted to fly would be set on fire.  Winston Churchill


http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/w/winston_churchill.html

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« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2006, 08:39:23 PM »
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LOL, how does a speech by Churchill in 1899 get changed into a pissing contest about Bomber Harris.


I don't know. But I see a lot of people on the net trot out the moral equivalency argument, that the Nazis were no worse than the allies, and what happened at Nuremberg is just an example of victor's justice. I just like pointing out that that's not the case.