Letter in the Shotgun News to Kofi Annan

[lazs2]

Well red bottom... I have read the federalist papers on the second and the news articles of the time and the published works on the subject by the framers and the Department of Justices finding that the second is an individual right....

Is that what you mean?  

Certainly it would be absurd to make an amendment to the constitution that allowed militia to be armed?   What would be the point?  An unarmed militia can not exist.   By it's nature a militia is armed.   Why would you guarentee the right of a militia, under the control of the government to keep and bear arms?

lazs

[Curval]

Originally posted by Hangtime
liberties that we derive not from an international bureaucracy's whims, but from God.


You must understand that having announced your intention to deny us our ancestral, God-given and inalienable rights

I must have missed the right to gun ownership when I used to read the bible.

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Curval
I must have missed the right to gun ownership when I used to read the bible.

I can't recall which section of the Bible deals in rights at all.

[Hangtime]

I believe Laz nailed it down somewhere else..

A Democracy is 3 wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner. A constitutional democracy with a bill of rights assures the sheep he ain't gonna wind up on the wolves dinner table.

The second ammendment is tantamount to 'liberty's teeth'. I firmly believe the 'people' have the right to personal ownership of the same weapons the government issues to it's troops.

They've already taken THAT right away. Seems like they just won't be happy till they legislate even the paint ball guns outta the hands of kids.

[RedTop]

Interesting article Hang.....thanks

[*NDM*JohnnyX]

Originally posted by Hangtime
I believe Laz nailed it down somewhere else..

A Democracy is 3 wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner. A constitutional democracy with a bill of rights assures the sheep he ain't gonna wind up on the wolves dinner table.

The second ammendment is tantamount to 'liberty's teeth'. I firmly believe the 'people' have the right to personal ownership of the same weapons the government issues to it's troops.

They've already taken THAT right away. Seems like they just won't be happy till they legislate even the paint ball guns outta the hands of kids.

They try and take my paintball gun I'll shoot every last one of them. Who knows what would happen if they came for my real guns.

[Curval]

Originally posted by Hangtime
The second ammendment is tantamount to 'liberty's teeth'. I firmly believe the 'people' have the right to personal ownership of the same weapons the government issues to it's troops.

Praise the Lord and Hail JAY-sus!!!!

Can I get an amen brother Hang?

[Hangtime]

God invented man. Man invented the Gun and Americans invented the finest Battle Rifles ever produced.

Amen.

[lazs2]

curval... guess we colonials are just different than you subjects...  We don't trust our governments.   We trust yours even less.   If someone went around calling himself "lord" something we would laugh our butt off...  

We hire british servants we don't become em.

Our founders wanted it that way.   I want it that way.   I will shoot up some blue helmets myself on that day.

While you get all teary about your lords and the queen... we belive in god and guns and individualism.

lazs

[Hangtime]

Originally posted by lazs2

We hire british servants we don't become em.

lazs

ROFL!!!

Gawd, that's priceless!  .. or as a brit would put it: "I say, old man. Pithy. Very.. enh, wot?"

LOL!

[Curval]

Priceless?....stupid more like.

Lazs hires British servants?  How...aristocratic of him.  It's a very contradictory statement.

I think lazs is getting all confused...he must be stuck in the Founding Fathers era...he isn't a colonial at all anymore, he's an American.  I'm a colonial though.

"we belive in god and guns and individualism"

lol....yes, when I see lazs claiming his individuality it reminds me of Monty Python's Life of Brian.  Brian is trying to tell the crowd that they don't need to worship him...that the listeners are all individuals.  Then the crowd chants in unison "YES we are all individuals."

[lazs2]

well... I don't think any American here is surprised that you don't understand.

lazs

[Curval]

Well lazs you make it very tough.  Americans hire servants, somehow British people ARE servants but yet worship the queen and the aristocracy (who aren't English, I assume) and this makes you individuals who are free.

Rrrright.

[lazs2]

People all over the world hire british servants... they make the best ones... they even have schools to teach em how to be the best doormat they can be.  Some rich aholes in the U.S. hire em too.

brit subjects do worship royalty and the upper class... they even call some people "lords"...  

I really don't see anything about brit life or traditions or politics or dental care that I would want any part of.

lazs