Author Topic: Confederate Flag STAYS  (Read 3021 times)

TheWobble

  • Guest
Confederate Flag STAYS
« on: April 18, 2001, 09:44:00 AM »
Well the vote came in today, the Confederate flag WILL NOT be ordered removed from the mississippi capital building.

I dont know the exact numbers but they used the term "overwhealming"


I bet JJ is having a real bad case of the toejams about now..



Offline Ripsnort

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 27251
Confederate Flag STAYS
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2001, 09:55:00 AM »
 

I found one arguement worth banning the flag for...the confederate flag is symbolism of rebellion, we're now (and have been) under ONE Flag since the end of the confederate war...thus, ban or replace it for something that doesn't symbolize rebellion.

TheWobble

  • Guest
Confederate Flag STAYS
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2001, 10:34:00 AM »
I see yer point rip bit the reason they wanted it banned was because it was supposeidly a "racist symbol"  

The fact that it symbolized rebellion while a valid point was not the reason these idiots were squeaking.

Offline Eagler

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 18204
Confederate Flag STAYS
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2001, 10:36:00 AM »
Don't think it'll help tourism for Mississippi. The news interviews of the "locals" who were in support of the flag was real impressive also. It made it look as if inbreeding was alive and well in MS.  http://www.sunherald.com/other_content/breaking/flag_county_totals.htm
I thought the proposed flag looked cool. This is an old dead issue for losers living in the past.

Eagler
"Masters of the Air" Scenario - JG27


Intel Core i7-13700KF | GIGABYTE Z790 AORUS Elite AX | 64GB G.Skill DDR5 | 16GB GIGABYTE RTX 4070 Ti Super | 850 watt ps | pimax Crystal Light | Warthog stick | TM1600 throttle | VKB Mk.V Rudder

Offline miko2d

  • Parolee
  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3177
Confederate Flag STAYS
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2001, 11:09:00 AM »
 
Quote
Originally posted by Ripsnort:
...the confederate flag is symbolism of rebellion, we're now (and have been) under ONE Flag since the end of the confederate war...thus, ban or replace it for something that doesn't symbolize rebellion.

 Ban or replace the US flag - it symbolizes a rebellion too!

 Why doesn't treachery ever prosper? Because if it prospers, none dare call it treachery.

 The same can be said about a rebellion.

 The british did not have the will to spill as much blood to keep the colonies as US was willing to spill to keep the South.

 miko

Offline Ripsnort

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 27251
Confederate Flag STAYS
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2001, 11:10:00 AM »
Hehe, Spin doctor!  

Offline john9001

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 9453
Confederate Flag STAYS
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2001, 11:15:00 AM »
good point, miko

Offline Udie

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3395
Confederate Flag STAYS
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2001, 07:04:00 PM »
 
Quote
Originally posted by Ripsnort:
   

I found one arguement worth banning the flag for...the confederate flag is symbolism of rebellion, we're now (and have been) under ONE Flag since the end of the confederate war...thus, ban or replace it for something that doesn't symbolize rebellion.

 hehehe Rip that's the one valid argument for keeping it!


Offline easymo

  • Parolee
  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1640
Confederate Flag STAYS
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2001, 09:47:00 PM »
  "the confederate war..."

  You are ,of course, referring to The War of Northern Aggression.

Sturm

  • Guest
Confederate Flag STAYS
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2001, 01:49:00 AM »
Whatever they don't like it all revolves around racism.  Good thing the brits aren't living with us as well for I would still be ticked that they forced us to come live over here.  At any rate the flag stays they can boycott all they want.  I have other more important things to worry about like how gas went up 20 cents a gallon last week.    

------------------
Sturm6 StaffelKapitän
JV44 Platzschutzstaffel
Airfield Defense Squadron
"The soup nazi"

Offline Thud

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 476
Confederate Flag STAYS
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2001, 04:49:00 AM »
 
Quote
Originally posted by easymo:
 "the confederate war..."

  You are ,of course, referring to The War of Northern Aggression.

I hope that's a troll.......


Offline StSanta

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2496
Confederate Flag STAYS
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2001, 08:23:00 AM »
you can rationalize the use of anything.

I could say the swastika represented not the holocaust but German national pride and rebellion against the tyrannic versailles agreement.

But in this case, I don't see why it should be banned. it has a clear history, and was in use when the north had slaves too. Seems odd to want to ban a flag (or not use it like the suggestion was)

That being said, i can understand how the African American population feels about it. They probably see it in a siilar way as jews see the swastika.

not saying it's right or wrong, but that's the perception i believe.

------------------
Von Santa
Staffelkapitän 9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
"If you return from a mission with a victory, but without your Rottenflieger, you have lost your battle."
- D. Hrabak, JG 54 "Grünherz"

Offline Ripsnort

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 27251
Confederate Flag STAYS
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2001, 08:38:00 AM »
Santa, we somewhat agree, however, the MEDIA can DISTORT that perception to a GREAT degree, and it sells...sells ads for TV, sells newspapers...ie. stir the pot, reap the financial rewards (Media)

Offline Robert

  • Copper Member
  • **
  • Posts: 247
      • http://home.midsouth.rr.com/rwysairwar/
Confederate Flag STAYS
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2001, 09:13:00 AM »
Let me tell you all something. I live in  northern mississippi. RACISM here is worse than any other place in the country. The fight against the flag has nothing to do with anything but racism. I love all ppl but there are good and bad in us all. The trouble makers are the ones i hate no matter what color or creed.

RWY

Offline Ripsnort

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 27251
Confederate Flag STAYS
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2001, 09:20:00 AM »
RWY, I'd be vey interested in your prospective of this whole event. Please tell if you have the time.