DNA proves Coleman did it

[Sixpence]

Originally posted by Stringer
Hehe, Whitey Bulger...he even hit the Mass. Lottery one time.

Sixpence, my wife grew up in the Winter Hill section.

Actually, I believe the ticket belonged to someone who owed him money, so he made him an offer he couldn't refuse. He even managed to bully someone out of their liquor store. The Boston globe had a series on him a few years ago that was a great read.

One of my first jobs in the P.O. was in somerville, tell your wife it has changed alot. Those old three deckers over by tufts are going for 700k, imagine that? You could have picked one up 30 years ago for 15k. Also, Davis square is all redone, they rebuilt the T station, rebuilt the theater, there is a swing dance club that has become real popular, the whole square is a happening place now.

[john9001]

ted bundy will not kill again.

[Shamus]

I dont understand why so many prosecutors so vehemently fight against providing state paid for DNA tests that might prove the innocence of a convict.

In the Coleman case the guy was already dead, so the benefit would have been more political, but it would have opened a few eyes had he been found innocent.

As usual I see the OJ case brought up, but let me tell you that is an annomoly, in the vast majority of cases the defendant has a fraction of the resources available
to the prosecution.

The only reason that I oppose the death penalty is not because I dont believe that there are people out there that deserve it, its because I have seen the system break down and convict the innocent.

shamus

[Stringer]

Sixpence,
My wife used to work at the Harvard Health in Davis Square.  I remember when that Harvard Health was just built, right near or beside the theatre if I remember right.  Also there used to be a club there that used to have jazz.  It was across the street, but I can't remember the name.

Her parents still live there and own a 6 family and a couple of two families off of Broadway.  They've owned them for years.

[GtoRA2]

Originally posted by john9001
ted bundy will not kill again.

To bad we can not say the same thing for Ted Kennedy....

Then  again the DNC prolly makes sure he has a sober driver with him at all times!

[lazs2]

Yep staga... whites are executed at a far higher rate than blacks.

lazs

[midnight Target]

First of all life in prison does not automatically give you a license to kill in prison. I wonder how many shivs have been delivered by prisoners who are serving less than life? Silly argument really. California has a special prison for the bad ones, it ain't pleasant.

Secondly I think we need to compare the per capita murder rates in States with the death penalty and without. You can argue all you want about how it's done too infrequently or it should be quicker or whatever... but if the murder rate in DP states is higher then why kill prisoners? Retribution is a juvenile thing for a State to do. Everything should be geared toward making the State a safer place to live. If killing one murderer doesn't prevent murder than it is just foolish.

TEN WORST STATES FOR MURDER, 2003  PER 100,000
(1) Louisiana  13.0
(2) Maryland  9.5
(3) Mississippi  9.3
(4) Nevada  8.8
(5) Arizona  7.9
(6) Georgia  7.6
(7) South Carolina  7.2
(8) California  6.8
(9) Tennessee  6.8
(10) Alabama  6.6


 

TEN SAFEST STATES FOR MURDER, 2003 PER 100,000
(1) Maine  1.2 (no DP)
(2) South Dakota  1.3
(3) New Hampshire  1.4
(4) Iowa  1.6 (no DP)
(5) Hawaii  1.7 (no DP)
(6) Idaho  1.8
(7) North Dakota  1.9 (no DP)
(8) Oregon  1.9
(9) Massachusetts  2.2 (no DP)
(10) Rhode Island  2.3 (no DP)


So ALL of the ten worst states for murder have the death penalty...  while 6 of the ten safest states (lowest murder rate) do not have the death penalty.

Booyah!

[Debonair]

Originally posted by lazs2
Yep staga... whites are executed at a far higher rate than blacks.

lazs

Thats not true, none of them are white when they get out of the chair

[Shuckins]

MT,

There is more behind the murder rates in the states listed than the presence or absence of the death penalty and you damn well know it...or at least you should.

There is probably a stronger correlation between the murder rate and the percentage of the state's population that lives in proverty-stricken, gang-infested, inner-city, or drug-abuse plagued areas.

The death penalty is in place in the states you listed because the citizens are fed up with violent crime and murder.  Their hopes that capital punishment would have an impact on these problems is constantly subverted by death penalty opponents and lawyers who make it extremely difficult to implement, even in cases where there is no question of its justification.

So Booyah yourself

[eskimo2]

Originally posted by Debonair
Wachootawkinbout?

LOL,
Am I the only one who thought that this was funny or got it?

eskimo

[Urchin]

I wonder if the death penalty can be explained in the "10 worst states" by noting that there is a large population of blacks living in the inner city ( = lots of violence), and a seperate population of wealthy, "conservative" voters.  I know this is true in Maryland, Baltimore is usually 1st or 2nd in the "****tiest city to live in" sweepstakes (flipflopping with Detroit), but we also have a couple of the wealthiest counties in the country within a half  hour drive of Baltimore.

[Toad]

Originally posted by midnight Target
Retribution is a juvenile thing for a State to do.  

 Retribution by the State? I don't think so. It's the duty of the State to its citizens prevent recidivism, that's all.

[RedTop]

Originally posted by BluKitty
So.... do you know what monday is?

 

A Day off;)

Same as Thursday is....A day off:lol

[Donzo]

Originally posted by BluKitty
So.... do you know what monday is?

Why are there a disproportionate amount of black men on death row?

Because a disproportionate amount of black men commit crimes?

Just a thought.

[ASTAC]

Originally posted by Donzo
Because a disproportionate amount of black men commit crimes?

Just a thought.

I'll agree to that. Or at least get caught at it.