Author Topic: Brokeback Mountain (Read 9345 times)

Ripsnort · « **Reply #15 on:** January 13, 2006, 07:10:09 PM »

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Originally posted by FuBaR
I am confused, is this an anti movie, or anti gay thing? Or neither. could someone bring me up to date on exactly what the current discussion is about.

Do you mean the movie or the thread? The movie is pro-gay, supposed to make you feel sorry for gay men (We're VICTIMS! The left loves that line...), and its subliminal message to to vote for gay marriage.

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In "Brokeback Mountain," a film adaptation of the 1997 New Yorker short story by Annie Proulx, two 19-year-old ranchers named Ennis Del Mar (Heath Ledger) and Jack Twist (Jake Gyllenhaal) have been hired to guard sheep on a rugged mountain in 1963 Wyoming. One night, the bitter cold drives Ennis into Jack's tent so they can keep each other warm. As they lie there, suddenly and almost without warning, these two young men ? both of whom later insist they're not "queer" ? jump out of the sack and awkwardly and violently engage in anal sex.

Too embarrassed the next morning even to talk about it, Ennis and Jack dismiss their sexual encounter as a "one-shot deal" and part company at the end of the sheepherding job. Ennis marries his fianc***39264;Alma (Michelle Williams, Ledger's real-life girlfriend) while Jack marries female rodeo rider and prom queen Lureen (Anne Hathaway). Each family has children.

Four years later, Jack sends Ennis a postcard saying he's coming to town for a visit. When the moment finally arrives, Ennis, barely able to contain his anticipation, rushes outside to meet Jack and the two men passionately embrace and kiss. Ennis's wife sadly witnesses everything through the screen door. (Since this is one of the film's sadder moments, I wasn't quite sure why the audience in the Portland, Oregon, theater burst out in laughter at Alma's heartbreaking realization.)

From that point on, over the next two decades Ennis and Jack take off together on periodic "fishing trips" at Brokeback Mountain, where no fishing actually takes place. During these adulterous homosexual affairs, Jack suggests they buy a ranch where the two can live happily ever after, presumably abandoning their wives and children. Ennis, however, is afraid, haunted by a traumatic childhood memory: It seems his father had tried to inoculate him against homosexuality by taking him to see the brutalized, castrated, dead body of a rancher who had lived together with another man ? until murderous, bigoted neighbors committed the gruesome hate crime.

Eventually, life with Ennis becomes intolerable and Alma divorces him, while Lureen, absorbed with the family business, only suspects Jack's secret as they drift further and further apart. When, toward the end of the story, Jack dies in a freak accident (his wife tells Ennis a tire blew up while Jack was changing it, propelling the hubcap into his face and killing him), Ennis wonders whether Jack actually met the same brutal fate as the castrated "gay" cowboy of his youth.

Ultimately, Ennis ends up alone, with nothing, living in a small, secluded trailer, having lost both his family and his homosexual partner. He's comforted only by his most precious possession -- Jack's shirt -- which he pitifully embraces, almost in a slow dance, his aching loneliness masterfully projected into the audience via the film's artistry.

Gunthr · « **Reply #16 on:** January 13, 2006, 07:14:26 PM »

I didn't see the movie, but a friend who's views I trust saw it. He told me it was very sad, as in 'tearjerker', and not in the realm of promoting gay agenda because it shows extreamly negative consequences rather than glorifying gays.

I'm just tired of all the gay stuff going on everywhere, like its the most important thing in the world...

FuBaR · « **Reply #17 on:** January 13, 2006, 07:15:55 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Its pro-gay, supposed to make you feel sorry for gay men, and its subliminal message to to vote for gay marriage.

Well in that case I guess Ill say, none of you know anything about gay men, I have a brother who is gay. He is no different than anyone I know other than those who make it a problem. If you asked me if I felt sorry for gays I would answer... I feel as sorry for gays as I do blacks, arabs, mexicans, asians, and even whites. I cannot understand why people wont mind their own business instead of making gays so differently viewed.

P.S. I love my brother just as much as before I knew he was gay, he is my brother and nothing will make see him as anything less than my brother.

PS hollywood lesbians are Fin hot.

ASTAC · « **Reply #18 on:** January 13, 2006, 07:16:50 PM »

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Originally posted by Gunthr
I didn't see the movie, but a friend who's views I trust saw it. He told me it was very sad, as in 'tearjerker', and not in the realm of promoting gay agenda because it shows extreamly negative consequences rather than glorifying gays.

I'm just tired of all the gay stuff going on everywhere, like its the most important thing in the world...

The gays are forcing it to be the most important topic. They should stay in the freakin' closet instead of forcing the rest of society to accept their morally depraved way of life.

RedTop · « **Reply #19 on:** January 13, 2006, 07:50:49 PM »

aww...guess I'll pass. Movie about "Cowboys" Packing? Nahh.....I'll watch Sleepless in Seattle or You've got mail.

Pooh21 · « **Reply #20 on:** January 13, 2006, 07:53:00 PM »

Critics just love movies about gay cowboys eating pudding.

Stang · « **Reply #21 on:** January 13, 2006, 07:58:15 PM »

Was the book written after the Matthew Sheperd incident? Could be some interesting parallels.

rpm · « **Reply #22 on:** January 13, 2006, 07:59:43 PM »

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GtoRA2 · « **Reply #23 on:** January 13, 2006, 08:01:05 PM »

Do they at any point in the movie eat Pudding?

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #24 on:** January 13, 2006, 08:01:43 PM »

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Originally posted by Pooh21
Critics just love movies about gay cowboys eating pudding.

LOL Damnit I missed yours before I posted!

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #25 on:** January 13, 2006, 08:02:12 PM »

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Originally posted by FuBaR
I am confused, is this an anti movie, or anti gay thing? Or neither. could someone bring me up to date on exactly what the current discussion is about.

It's about how Hollywood is unAmerican because it's using cowboys to tell a love story between two men. I guess all the rednecks in here feel threatened by a simple movie...maybe it strikes too close to home for them =)

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midnight Target · « **Reply #26 on:** January 13, 2006, 08:11:30 PM »

So the real deal is... Some of you folks won't see a very well made and well written movie simply because of the subject matter.

I wonder how many of those same people had no qualms about seeing Saw or saw 2?

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #27 on:** January 13, 2006, 08:21:55 PM »

Why go see a movie about subject mater you do not find interesting MT?

NUKE · « **Reply #28 on:** January 13, 2006, 08:22:43 PM »

They should have set the movie in the middle-east, with gay muslim camel drivers who eventually get stoned to death by their evil, non compassionate and brutal society.

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #29 on:** January 13, 2006, 08:36:32 PM »

Why do that? Releasing it here and seeing the knee jerk reactions of guys like Ripsnort is almost the same thing.

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