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Offline lasersailor184

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« Reply #45 on: January 14, 2006, 01:41:42 AM »
Lower Risk?  Hardly.  

Bunjie Jumping may cost more, but sticking a fork in the light socket is still as risky.
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« Reply #46 on: January 14, 2006, 01:51:20 AM »
There are a lot of gays in the military as well.
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How many gays would you say are in the military?

maybe a percentage would suffice.  

you think 3%?

5%

10%

75%

I mean, how many is a lot?

PS:  Gay Cowboys is about as ANTI as you can get......

Actually, I dont think a cowboy can be gay and still be a cowboy.  It just dont fit....

Maybe cowdude or something......
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« Reply #47 on: January 14, 2006, 01:58:02 AM »
Heres an intersting question, and Im sure there has got to be some empiracle evidence to support the question one way or the other......

How many of the worlds air forces combat aces were/are homosexual?

Imagine a movie where two men combat aces were in love with each other.....

:huh
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« Reply #48 on: January 14, 2006, 02:37:24 AM »
You mean like Pearl Harbor?
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« Reply #49 on: January 14, 2006, 02:42:14 AM »
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Lower Risk?  Hardly.  

Bunjie Jumping may cost more, but sticking a fork in the light socket is still as risky.


Lower financial risk. :rolleyes:
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« Reply #50 on: January 14, 2006, 03:11:45 AM »
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Originally posted by Yeager
Heres an intersting question, and Im sure there has got to be some empiracle evidence to support the question one way or the other......

How many of the worlds air forces combat aces were/are homosexual?

Imagine a movie where two men combat aces were in love with each other.....

:huh


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« Reply #51 on: January 14, 2006, 07:54:22 AM »
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If I were a Hollywood movie mogul and someone came to me for financial backing to make Brokeback Mountain, I would have turned him down for the simple reason of profit.

It seems like this movie may be big enough box office to make a decent profit, but that would not have been my guess.

I would have guessed about 90% of males will not see this movie, especially in the teen demographic.  Movies like Star Wars and LOTR depend on repeat geek attendance from the teen demographic and this would be almost nil. 4% would be dragged off to the movie (reluctantly) by their women.  The others are gay and would see the movie.  

Half or better of the women would not see the movie, especially away from the major metros, because their guys could not be dragged kicking and screaming.

I would think limiting your demographic so severely would make it a pretty minor movie box office wise.

Studio money would be better invested showing the latest car chase and booby epic.


That is a one of the biggest criticisms of Hollywood in general in that they are reluctant to to stray from all the obvious movie themes. The car chase and booby epic as you say. The problem is that it includes not just movies with a gay theme but in fact a lot of movies you and I might like to see. Which wouldn't be considered commercial.  I personally would like to see more aviation and or WW2 air combat movies. But they wouldn't make them or if they did. They would make a shambles like 'Pearl Harbour' or make some kind strident anti war movie. I found 'Pearl Harbour' one of the most disappointing in recent years. Almost nothing rang true in it. It was like Top Gun in the forties. Top Gun was exciting but easily the most unrealistic air combat movie ever.

Quite a few hits take them by surprise. So their natural reaction is to make sequels or copies. If a dumb comedy is a hit, then they make dumb comedies. If a sword and sorcery epic is a hit then we are up to our necks in swords and sandals.  But occasionally a film does turn up out of the ordinary. Usually it takes the likes of Spielberg or similar with heavy clout to make something he likes.  But most of the my favourite films would never be made these days. Which is a pity.
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« Reply #52 on: January 14, 2006, 07:58:25 AM »
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Don't look now boys, but I think we've got a gay leprechaun in our midst.  Hit the road cpxxx, 'cause we don't take kindly to yer kind around here!


But you're from Belgium? Everyone knows all Belgians are gay gnomes!
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« Reply #53 on: January 14, 2006, 08:00:06 AM »
I hadn't realised that it was compulsary to go see it...

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« Reply #54 on: January 14, 2006, 09:55:41 AM »
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Originally posted by Yeager
Heres an intersting question, and Im sure there has got to be some empiracle evidence to support the question one way or the other......

How many of the worlds air forces combat aces were/are homosexual?

Imagine a movie where two men combat aces were in love with each other.....

:huh


I don't know if it would be a hit, but I got a title. Bentback Joysticks.
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« Reply #55 on: January 14, 2006, 09:58:22 AM »
Mt... I won't be seing brokebutt mountain or "hostel" and I never seen saw or saw two and most likely never will.

For different reasons tho..  I won't see the "how to torture people and be really cool" movies because they are wrong.  they are irresponsible and will probly result in people suffering and dying.

I won't see brokebutt because.... it has nothing to do with anything that interests me except the scenery.

Which brings me too.... who will watch this movie and why?

They spent a lot of money on this thing... squandered a lot of talent... Are there really that many gays in America?   Who else would care?   I had allways thought that gay men threatened women in the most basic way (no control over them) so I can't imagine women wanting to see it....  

The type of men who like the great outdoors won't go to see it...

Who does that leave?

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« Reply #56 on: January 14, 2006, 10:14:25 AM »
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I haven't seen the movie, but I'll go out on a limb and assume that the budget was a small fraction of what was spent on the latest Star Wars.

Lower profit, but also lower risk.


The original Star Wars was a comparitively low budget movie: about 30 million in todays dollars.

The reason I brought it up was to say that your typical 16 year old geek that would watch SW 17 times and brag about it would not be caught dead in the same multiplex where Brokeback is playing, even if he were gay.
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« Reply #57 on: January 14, 2006, 10:37:13 AM »
More interesting than the movie (by far) will be the inevitable analysis of the types of people who went to see it.  

Who will go?   Probly a lot of gays first off but not all.   some fans of the stars or the director or people who still haven't figured out what the movie is about...Some guys who's wife/girlfriend thinks it is a good movie for their boyfriends/husbands to see?

What straight guy will really go to this movie?  and... why?

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« Reply #58 on: January 14, 2006, 10:38:10 AM »
I think my wife is beginning to understand not only how MY mind works, but how the rest of us poor sick bastiges think as well.  


And I'm scared.



I had a big problem with the basic premise of this movie.  That two guys ........ normal, attracted to women, no thoughts of being attracted to a man; that these two guys could find themselves huddled together for warmth against the forces of nature (basically freezin their damn balls off) and suddenly at some point during the night one develops an incurable desire to have someone stick a noodle up his prettythang.  And that the other one (at the same time) develops a desire to do JUST THAT.  I mean, come on.  I dont care how well acted it is, I just cant get past that part and make it believeable.  Maybe its just because I'm not gay, I dont know.  

Anyway, so I'm talking to my wife about this at dinner last night, and she looks at me and says "Maybe the poor guy was wearing a sheepskin coat?  They were herding sheep right?  Heck, maybe they even SKINNED a sheep to keep warm, and the smell of the wool confused them."

Besides bringing me beer, putting up with my gaming and my guns and reloading equipment laying around, now she comes up with this?  I didnt know whether to run like hell or not.  I opted for sex first.  I'll decide on the running later.  :aok
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« Reply #59 on: January 14, 2006, 10:49:05 AM »
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The reason I brought it up was to say that your typical 16 year old geek that would watch SW 17 times and brag about it would not be caught dead in the same multiplex where Brokeback is playing, even if he were gay.


This is true...but...this movie is just one salvo in the attempt to change public opinion.  Today your statement makes sense.  This movie is an attempt to make what is depicted in the movie as "normal".  Over time, once this objective is achieved, it will then be portrayed as "cool".  Then your statement will need to be reversed.
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