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« Reply #285 on: January 20, 2006, 04:02:56 PM »
MT... I pretty much agree with him.   I am not even sure that it is their fault...  we condone it so they do it.

Sob... most latinos I know (the family working ones) do not seem to be prejudiced at all and we can swap racial ephitets back and forth good naturedly.   Not so with the coloreds and the gays.

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« Reply #286 on: January 20, 2006, 04:07:50 PM »
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Goob in the state that i live in we have a hate crime law. If it is determined by the court that a crime was commited because of  race , color , religion ,or sexual preferance they add on exta time to serve. That is the proof .  Funny thing is tho no minority has ever been charged with it.
Once again a crime is a crime.  Once convicted under the same offences equal punishment should be handed out.



Bronk


That is NOT proof of your statement:

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Ohhh realy


Homo kills a Hetro = murder = long punishment period
Hetro kills a Homo = murder and hate crime = longer punishment period

How is that equel. I guess gays now come under edangerd species.
All murder is a hate crime IMHO and  in the eye's of the court all are equel.

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The court would have to prove that the murderer killed someone BECAUSE of their race, color, sexual preference, etc...

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« Reply #287 on: January 20, 2006, 04:15:14 PM »
your point being?   goob... to attach color or sexual preference or religion to a crime and make the penalties different based on that is just plain wrong.... It is wrong in the exact same way that affirmative action is wrong...

It breeds hate and resentment and keeps us seperate as a people.   Not everyone who believe in hate crimes or AA is evil tho.... some are just well meaning buffoons.

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« Reply #288 on: January 20, 2006, 04:16:26 PM »
That's MISTER well meaning buffoon to you!

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« Reply #289 on: January 20, 2006, 04:16:30 PM »
So because you have family members who died from diseases even a heterosexual can get are why homsexuality is a disease in your opinion?


Not sure why you playing the age card, Im only having a logical discussion, if you are that unable to defend your veiws its ok, but c'mon bud find something to point out other than Im younger than you are. Theres those differences in society coming at you again.


PS, your cousin got diseases because he wasn't smart enough to use protection, same goes for a heterosexual who gets an STD from unprotected sex.
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« Reply #290 on: January 20, 2006, 04:20:45 PM »
yeah right...."mr well meaning buffoon."

Hard to not like you MT no matter how wrong you are.

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« Reply #291 on: January 20, 2006, 04:27:14 PM »
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The court would have to prove that the murderer killed someone BECAUSE of their race, color, sexual preference, etc...



Ok then please explain why no minority has been charged with a hate crime.  Well to my knowlage anyway.

Just ssems kinda strange when all minorities want is equal treatment.


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« Reply #292 on: January 20, 2006, 04:30:57 PM »
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That is NOT proof of your statement:



 

What do you want proof of ?
 That there is a law that states it is a hate crime law.
I'm not shure what you want proof of.


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« Reply #293 on: January 20, 2006, 04:37:02 PM »
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Ok then please explain why no minority has been charged with a hate crime.



I don't wanna rain on your parade, but:

read this

google it and there is tons of examples Bronk

Are you just angry cuz this movie wasn't called "Bronkback Mountain"?
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« Reply #294 on: January 20, 2006, 04:56:49 PM »
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I don't wanna rain on your parade, but:

read this

google it and there is tons of examples Bronk

Are you just angry cuz this movie wasn't called "Bronkback Mountain"?
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Xr, I skimmed through that article. First thank you for pointing out said article. second Think you are missing my point IT shouldent exist.  It is a bad law because it was intended to single out one race.
But now that it started to hit minorities is a bad law.  This is according to the artile.

I am not angry about anything I am just sick of being called a racist homophobe because of my skin color. Every group of people has aholes.
I'll just keep on judgeing the people I meet by there actions.
I dont care one iota about the movie. All i was comenting on was the second class citizen coment.



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« Reply #295 on: January 20, 2006, 05:07:04 PM »
I didn't know that the law had a negative impact on minorities either. When I went to use google, I really didn't know what answer(s) I would get. Living here in Toronto I can only recall one minority charged with a hate crime; some muslim guy desecrated some Jewish grave sites. Metro cops caught the offender within 24 hours and charged this guy with a hate crime.


ps: my comment about Bronkback Mtn. was just my humour. It seemed too close to pass up...I thought it was funny, but that's my sense of humour... no offence was meant anyway

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« Reply #296 on: January 20, 2006, 05:12:10 PM »
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Sob... most latinos I know (the family working ones) do not seem to be prejudiced at all and we can swap racial ephitets back and forth good naturedly.   Not so with the coloreds and the gays.

lazs
that is a fact and we don't go running around yelling discrimination.  mostly we just go to work and take care of our families.

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« Reply #297 on: January 20, 2006, 05:12:31 PM »
I see bronks point... and... AA mostly helps women but..

They shouldn't exist.  Both AA and so called hate crimes are devisive.

Has anyone seen where violence against another was caused by like?  Do we have like crimes?

Are you any less dead by a person who is "just business" as he kills you in the mugging or mugs you and kills you while making a racial slur?

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« Reply #298 on: January 20, 2006, 05:14:27 PM »
XT read that whole article it will give you a new perspective.
Its not doing what it was intended to do according to the article.
Thats because someone started to use it equaly to all races.
They couldnt put in verbage of the law any white commiting crime of hate.
I just found it  funny it became a bad  only when it started to effect  minorities.




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P.S. Guess you should have read the article.
and no worries about the name change  all in good sport.
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« Reply #299 on: January 20, 2006, 05:19:40 PM »
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XT read that whole article it will give you a new perspective.
Its not doing what it was intended to do according to the article.
Thats because someone started to use it equaly to all races.
They couldnt put in verbage of the law any white commiting crime of hate.
I just found it  funny it became a bad  only when it started to effect  minorities.




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P.S. Guess you should have read the article.
and no worries about the name change  all in good sport.


You nailed it Bronk. The guy even said it. He said "hate crime laws are not just for the KKK anymore" He's a typical moron.