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Offline Newman

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« on: January 14, 2006, 12:27:33 AM »
This was my first attempt at making a battle plan on my own, and I tried to cover every aspect of a battle. I also tried to make all the pieces of an offense, AND defense fit.

Being an XO or GL in many scenarios from the AW days on, I think Scenario planning is much eaiser because there is usually an attacker and defender in a scenario. Coral Sea being an exception..

>Insert ROC's comment here<  

The one thing I learned was that planning an FSO frame is BRUTAL! I respect ANYONE who steps up for this challenge.

Well done Axis squads! You made it happen!

SALUTE! In no peticular order.

9GIAP
CAF
325th Checkertails
C-Hawks
56th Fighter Group
MAW
Nightmares
VFS 1000
Fate
The Unforgiven
68th Lightning Lancers
Arabian Knight
327th Steel Talons

Let's do it again next week :aok

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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2006, 08:28:14 AM »
Back at you Newman. I don’t even know who won yet. I managed to log on for about 3 minutes before everyone rolled, then my system locked up as it has been doing for the last few days. It was the 5th time that night so I gave up. As for making the orders it is a chore, but often fun if you have the time. It actually gives players a taste what it is like to be an Admin CM. They do the same thing only on a much larger scale and plans/orders for all three frames. :)

Here were our battle plans. I thought you might enjoy looking at them. I went light on protecting our task groups, that was my only worry. I was going to put them in a ziz zag course heading west, but was never able to obviously. :(  

Squad Operations
Squalls 1944 Pacific


Allied Objectives
Attack Port 62
Attack A49 (town and Fighter Hangers only)
Attack Radar Factory in 12.12 sector
Defend destroyers in C15 and C18 Task groups (8.14, 9.14, and 10.14 area)

Squads Available
22-27 = lll./JG44 Night Hawks (50% in SBD’s and 50% in TBM’s. Roll C18)
White path on map. JG44 Night Hawks will roll from C18 in SBD’s and TBM’s. Ordnance is C.O.’s discretion. SBD’s will attack the Port 62 dive bombing and then RTB North West. TBM’s will keep their ordnance continue south to the Radar factory and attack it. Suggest level bombing then use rockets to destroy any targets left.

04-06 = UKNIGHTED JG26-357th FG (F6F Heavy Roll C15)
White path on map. UKNIGHTED JG26-357th FG will roll from C15 with bombs and or rockets. Ordnance is C.O.’s discretion. Attack Port 62 then continue on and help escort JG44 south to the Radar factory.

11-15 = lll/Jabostaffle Luftwaffe ~ES~ (F4U escort. Roll C15)
White path on map. III/Jabostaffle Luftwaffe ES will provide close escort to JG44 Night Hawks. They will escort to Port 62 and then continue on to the Radar factory with the TBM’s. Suggest 100% fuel with drop tanks.

07-10 = The Damned (F4U escort. Roll C15)
White path on map. The Damned will provide close escort to JG44 Night Hawks. They will escort to Port 62 and then continue on to the Radar factory with the TBM’s. Suggest 100% fuel with drop tanks.

04-06 = 65th FS (TBM. Roll C63.)
Green path on map. Ordnance is C.O.’s discretion. Head north then east, then directly south for A49. Attack the town and fighter hangers ONLY. No other targets are valid.
RTB North West for C63. Suggest level bombing.

04-06 = 8thAirforce/305th BG (F6F escort. Roll C63)
Green path on map. Escort the 65th FS who are flying TBM’s to A49.

04-06 = VFS-1000 (F4U escort. Roll C63)
Green path on map. Escort the 65th FS who are flying TBM’s to A49.

11-15 = 332nd Flying Mongrels (F6F Heavy. Roll C56)
Blue path on map. Ordnance is C.O.’s discretion. Climb to 10k. Head south then east directly to A49.  Try to drag CAP down and west and engage.

04-06 = Rogue Squadron (F6F Heavy. Roll C56)
Blue path on map. Ordnance is C.O.’s discretion. Climb to 10k. Head south then east directly to A49. Try to drag CAP down and west and engage.

11-15 = ~U.S.M.C~ (F4U. Roll C15)
White area on map around C15 and C18.  Fly CAP over C15 and C18.

04-06 = Sickpuppies (F6F Roll C15)
White area on map around C15 and C18.  Fly CAP over C15 and C18.

04-06 = Shillelagh (F4U Roll C15)
White area on map around C15 and C18.  Fly CAP over C15 and C18.

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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2006, 11:27:16 PM »
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there is usually an attacker and defender in a scenario. Coral Sea being an exception..


Is this where I'm supposed to comment?  lol  now now Newman, you guys defended well in Coral Sea, you just flew against the Best Team Ever Assembled In Flight Sim History :)

But it sure was great being on the same side for a change.
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« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2006, 11:53:15 PM »
TY ROC!

Daddog had a good plan, but ours was better!

:cool:

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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2006, 12:42:57 AM »
Pifff....ROC cheated! :P

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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2006, 02:27:37 AM »
WTG guys. I really wish I had some time to fly. Hopefully in Feb. I'll have some time to get back in it.
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« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2006, 10:22:17 AM »
Miss ya Hall, hopes things are smoothing out for you.
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« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2006, 01:53:17 AM »
Hey Daddog,

As this was my first solo battle plan, I was a little protective of it :noid  but after refection, I'll post it here.

I didn't have the time to make a map, but I can tell you that your groups flew right into ours, save Strike Force 1. I also suspected that your group from the north that encountered Strike Force 2 was going to head to P62 and the Radar factory, and adjusted the CAP to engage that group.

Here are the long winded axis orders for all to see:


Newman

SALUTE!

We are lucky in two ways this frame. One is the Allied attacks likely will be coming from the same general area. The second the bases we have to defend are close together. That also creates a bit of a strategic problem.. Do we throw everything up for defense with a token attack group.. go with a strong attack group and stable defense.. or BOTH!

I've opted for both! We have 8 Destroyers to sink, and 3 bases to defend. I think we can do this  :-)

I expect a large scale attack on P62 and A49. They may try and hit them both at the same time from different directions. We'll be ready!

The Radar Factory in 12,12,3 is at 5K, so it will take them a little while to mount that attack. It MAY come from the fringe areas.. but we'll see it coming! The last frame, it seemed that there were a few red herrings/ lost pilots tripping DAR. We need to let them do their thing, and concentrate on where the main attack forces are. We have reasonable radar coverage, but need to fill in the gaps.

The one thing we have to respect is limited visibility. There will be fog, but not as bad as last frame. The fog layers get thicker, as you climb, and seeing below your plane above 16K is pretty tough. Patrol altitudes will be up to the individual Squad Commanders. I would suggest a tiered approach. They may come in low and fast.

All fighters take off with full fuel and bombs. A reload with a JABO target may happen for all in fighters. Ki67's launch with formations and torps. Please keep me informed on squad numbers that are in the air as the battle progresses. Be ready to move in after a hotpad, if our defense does it's job and repels all major attacks, we will have the upper hand  :-)

Notes on the Ki67 with Torps. A torp drop, from a formation, MUST be done at 150 IAS or slower. Any alt from 50 to 400 feet, but it MUST be at 150 IAS.

Without anymore embellishment, here's the plan!

Scouts:
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>VFS 1000:

Actually, you may also tip their hand! Launch at A8 in Ki84's, Half take off on the NE runway, the rest SE runway and ditch bombs. Once the battle begins, be ready to regroup and jump in!
Spread out and set up scout positions, based on your squad's last turnout:

9,12,3
9,12,6
9,12,9
10,13,1
10,13,5
10,13,9
10,14,3-11,14,1

A49 defense:
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>9GIAP VVS RKKA:

Launch at A43 in Ki84's on the NE Runway. Ditch bombs and rally/ patrol in sector 11,11,8. You may be asked to intercept a possible attack from the south, or reload for a DD attack.

>325th Checkertails:

Launch A43 in Ki84's on the NE Runway. Ditch bombs and rally/patrol in sector 11,12,1. You may be asked to vector south as well.

>Fate:
Launch A48 in Ki84's, SW Runway. Ditch bombs and rally/ patrol in sector 10,12,6. You may be the first to contact enemy strike forces. Dispatch them at will!

>56th Fighter Group:

Launch A49 in Ki84's, NE Runway. Ditch bombs and rally/ patrol 11,13,2. You may need to adjust your patrol point as the frame progresses. I may vector you to either of the 3 bases we are defending, depending on the enemies attack.

P62 Defense:

>68th Lightning Lancers:

Launch A48 in Ki84's, NE Runway. Ditch bombs and rally/ patrol 11,13,5. Spread out a little if ya like. Remember, P62 is your responsibility!

>The Unforgiven:

Launch A61 in Ki84's, SW Runway. Ditch bombs and rally/ patrol 11,14,2. You may be the first to see the enemy as well. Keep a sharp lookout!

>MAW

Launch A61 in Ki84's, SW Runway. Ditch bombs and rally/ patrol 12,11,5. You may be asked to move in with Attack Group 2.

Defensive Wild Cards!

>C-Hawks

Launch A57 in Ki84's, W Runway. Ditch bomb and rally/ patrol 12,13,1. Your position is such that you can be vectored to any of the 3 bases we need to defend, or intercept incoming bad guys to the Radar factory.


Strike Force 1:

>Nightmares VMF-101
>Arabian Nights

Launch A9 in Ki61's, W Runway and HOLD YOUR BOMBS. Climb out to the west until you reach 6,11,8, then turn north.Stay on a northern course until you get to 6,14,5 and turn East. When you reach sector 8,14, spread out a little and look for the Destroyers. If we know where they are by then, vector in and attack!

Special OPS withing Strike Force 1:
I'd like the Nightmares to lift 3 Betty formations with torps from the SW Runway. Stay just behind the fighters, and at low alt. If things go as planned, the fighters will draw much of the fire and the Betty's can get to target. One Betty formation on target=one dead Destroyer  :-)

Be on the lookout for enemy activity also trying to end around to get to a target. If enemy is sighted, engage and hold ords as long as you can. Defense is a top priority, you can always rearm.

Strike Force 2:

>327th Steel Talons
>Cactus Air Force

Launch A60 in KI 84's, NE Runway and HOLD YOUR BOMBS. Turn and head directly to 12,14,9 You may be asked to loiter there in case of a possible incoming raid. If no Raid reported, continue west and spread out, if Destroyers have not been sighted. I expect Strike Force 2 to draw attention first and draw them off the western front, and that will allow Strike Force 1 to clean up!

Special OPS within Strike Force 2:
I'd like the 327th to lift 2 Betty Formations with torps. Stay at low alt, just behind the rest of the group. Be ready to attack just after the Fighters go in.

Squad CO's please give me individual squad reports on text channel 150. Any enemy sightings report on country channel.

SALUTE! and Happy Hunting!

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« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2006, 04:17:54 PM »
Notice VFS 1000 was included in both sets of orders. They were supposed to be 1/2 of our escort (see orders), but when Friday came they were Japs.:noid
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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2006, 05:41:04 PM »
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Miss ya Hall, hopes things are smoothing out for you.


Thanks man. Plenty smooth just stupid busy. Back soon.
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« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2006, 07:56:46 PM »
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WTG guys. I really wish I had some time to fly. Hopefully in Feb. I'll have some time to get back in it.


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« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2006, 10:47:12 PM »
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Notice VFS 1000 was included in both sets of orders. They were supposed to be 1/2 of our escort (see orders), but when Friday came they were Japs.


I saw they were on the Allied Orders as well. They are on the Axis contact list, as I double checked before I sent anything out.

FWIW, I got no intel from them, and they flew their mission for the Axis side perfectly.

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« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2006, 07:41:39 AM »
to Axis as well, looks like you guys had an uber plan to interecept and kill Allied Bombers!

I was wondering if anyone knows where the lll/Jabostaffle Luftwaffe ~ES~ guys were Friday?  They never showed as our escort, but they DID fly for the ALlied, somewhere, and were 50%+ of our (JG44) escort.  We needed them badly and got torched because of the overwhelming Jap numbers.

Thanks to the Damned, we made it farther than we would have without decent sticks at escort!

here are the orders our flight had:

22-27 = lll./JG44 Night Hawks (50% in SBD’s and 50% in TBM’s. Roll C18)
White path on map. JG44 Night Hawks will roll from C18 in SBD’s and TBM’s. Ordnance is C.O.’s discretion. SBD’s will attack the Port 62 dive bombing and then RTB North West. TBM’s will keep their ordnance continue south to the Radar factory and attack it. Suggest level bombing then use rockets to destroy any targets left.

We got slaughtered.

04-06 = UKNIGHTED JG26-357th FG (F6F Heavy Roll C15)
White path on map. UKNIGHTED JG26-357th FG will roll from C15 with bombs and or rockets. Ordnance is C.O.’s discretion. Attack Port 62 then continue on and help escort JG44 south to the Radar factory.

Got slaughtered soon after getting ords out on Port, never were able to provide escoprt, as we were dead before getting close!

11-15 = lll/Jabostaffle Luftwaffe ~ES~ (F4U escort. Roll C15)
White path on map. III/Jabostaffle Luftwaffe ES will provide close escort to JG44 Night Hawks. They will escort to Port 62 and then continue on to the Radar factory with the TBM’s. Suggest 100% fuel with drop tanks.

Where'd you guys go?!?!  We needed ya!![/u]

07-10 = The Damned (F4U escort. Roll C15)
White path on map. The Damned will provide close escort to JG44 Night Hawks. They will escort to Port 62 and then continue on to the Radar factory with the TBM’s. Suggest 100% fuel with drop tanks.

Did an awesome job providing close escort against far superior numbers.  Unfortunately, they couldnt handle 30 vs 9!  Nice job guys!
« Last Edit: January 17, 2006, 07:51:25 AM by Casper1 »

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« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2006, 09:42:28 AM »
Please note I am just seeking info on whereabouts, I know things get messed up in the 'fog of war'.  

No malice meant by above post.

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« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2006, 01:55:34 PM »
bump to figure out what happened...anyone?