Peoples Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF): Meet the J-XX series

[moot]

ripest O/T: poetrist = trite sop

[Saintaw]

Originally posted by *NDM*JohnnyX
Can't we just start feeding them opium again?

I beleive it's the other way around.

[storch]

google the boxer rebellion

[BluKitty]

Originally posted by USHilDvl
Hey...just to leap completely off-topic...Anyone see that now the Chinese claim to have discovered America?  Only one highly questionable document supports the notion, but they're yelling it to the rooftops.  It is to laugh...
 

Well If you knew some history yourself you might understand a little more .....  

..... it's a Chinese claim?  The man who did the bulk of the modren research and wrote "1421" was a BRITISH submariner:

Gavin Menzies (Royal Navy Submarine Commanding Officer, retired) first went to China in 1937, where he spent the first two years of his life. He joined the Royal Navy in 1953 and served in submarines from 1959 to 1970.

You can go through his evidance if you want, I doubt you'll be able to discredit him.  Do you know who Prince Henry the navigator is?  Do you know about the Zheng He at all? The Chinease backlash to expansionism?  

That's just basic stuff.  If you don't know about that stuff your hardly in a postion to critique.

There is much, much more than one document.


http://www.1421.tv/pages/maps/voyages.htm
http://www.1421.tv/pages/evidence/index.asp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zheng_He
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Don't underestimate China.  Respect the dragon.  Speaking regionally,  look at the Japanese..... never in history has a civilization transformed like they did since the late 19th century.

China on the moon?  how soon?    IMHO space is the future,  Investment in NASA and further private projects, like the X-Prize, are needed.

Not that we should stop makeing jets or anything

[Boroda]

Originally posted by Seagoon
Hi USH,

 

What does everyone keep saying about Chinese thinking on the idea of copyright?

Anywho, It seems they've started to copy something other than Russian military equipment. Me thinks that like most knock-offs the biggest differences between this and the F-22 will probably be the quality, pricetag, and the numbers produced.

Oh, and that you'll be able to buy the J-XX via Walmart.

- SEAGOON

China bought lisence to produce Su-27 series, but IIRC they still can't make engines - AL-31 series uses some interesting technologies that can't be copied by a "blast furnace in every village yard", like turbine blades made of mono-crystal steel (!!!).

Pictures above look like planes were made by famous Chinese designer Mi Ko Yang They even have a scale-model of 1.42 that never flew (J-XX)...

Did I tell you a joke about cheap fake Chinese Christmas-tree decorations?

[Stang]

What a rip off, lol.

[*NDM*JohnnyX]

I wonder when the first spy plane will get rammed by one.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by lada
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damm... i could be poetrist

Is this english?  I really can't tell.

[LePaul]

Will they be flown by pilots with names like Wrong Way (Wong Wei) again?

[Hangtime]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
Is this english?  I really can't tell.

Engrish.

"You wrack dishapline"

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by Hangtime
Engrish.

"You wrack dishapline"

Having had experience in Aircraft developmental testing I was speaking of practical knowledge not American boasting.

That and as of late I never pass up a chance to take a crack at the NYT.

[GRUNHERZ]

A few things about the Chinese first "discovery of america"

Zheng He never claimed it and he left no landmarks of the type his real voyages left all over the pacific islands, arabia and african coast. Hundreds of gigantic ships visting america would leave a considerable record of some sort.

By 1421  the vikings had quietly discovered, polulated and colonized norh america for long time allready.

Nobody from the "old world" did anything productive with the discovery until columbus.

So its really lame to even talk about a chines discovery of america.

[lasersailor184]

There's a very good book out there by Coontz.  It's about a near nuclear war between Russia and Japan.  

Anyway, technology advanced to such a point that it became much like WW2 dogfighting.  If you turned on your radar, you were dead.  If you turned on jamming, you were dead.  If you tried to use a missile, you were dead.

Basically, the japanese had a long range decent fighter that had great stand off power.  But this meant nothing because any use of technology would result in the death of the pilot.

The Russian's "Leased" a squadron of american pilots and planes.  The planes were F22's with skin that changed color.  They basically became invisible.

So here you have invisible planes fighting fast invisible planes.  Pretty much comes down to tactics and speed again.

[Pooh21]

Thats Stephen Coonts' "Fortunes of War"

[mora]

Originally posted by Stang
What a rip off, lol.

Stealth aircraft will look like a stealth aircraft.

They've allready built the J-10, and I don't doubt they can built a stealth fighter too, but I doubt the timeframe.

Even the Iranians are building a light(A-4 size) subsonic stealth attack plane.